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Offline jatrom  
#351 Posted : Tuesday, April 3, 2012 9:56:10 AM(UTC)
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Hi,
In my own life I've found: It's not the truth itself that scares us much. It's the consequences of accepting it...
This fear keeps people from embracing truth, even if it is as clear as daylight.(Hope 'daylight' is a good choice of word...)

Enjoy,
Offline James  
#352 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:49:38 AM(UTC)
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JM wrote:
did the jewish scribes translate only the first five books of the hebrew or all of the hebrew M.T. joesephus say it was only five please help thank you


Yada wrote:
There is no way of knowing. The supposedly ancient letter regarding the process is a hoax. And Josephus wasn't the most trustworthy fellow. Furthermore, it does not really matter because surviving LXX manuscripts differ so wildly from one another that they are not reliable. Moreover, why consider the LXX translation of the Hebrew Torah, Prophets, and Psalms when you can access the older and more reliable Dead Sea Scrolls in the original language?

Also, the MT, or Masoretic Text, did not exist until the 11th century CE.

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Offline James  
#353 Posted : Friday, April 13, 2012 2:00:14 PM(UTC)
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L wrote:
Hi, haven't been to your website for quite awhile (& apologies for this) but was interested & perplexed to see your comment, "In addition, we have discovered .... that Paul was a false prophet". On what do you base this? The Piso family story?

Was also interested to see that you mention Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread. I agree totally with this. All the Biblical holy days point to Yahshua and God's marvellous handiwork.

With best wishes,

L


Yada wrote:
L,

Please read www.QuestioningPaul.com. You will find overwhelming and irrefutable proof that Paul was far worse than just a false prophet. I came to realize this a few years ago, and now as a result this and other realizations derived from studying Yahowah's testimony I am engaged in a comprehensive edit of Yada Yah.

There are only 7 set apart days on Yahowah's calendar and they all point to Him and to His home. They serve to enable Yahowah's Covenant's promises. They provide the lone means to salvation for those engaged in the Covenant relationship with God. And they are far more important than just worth mentioning. According to Yahowah, all of those who ignore and fail to observe Passover, Unleavened Bread, and Reconciliations will die.

Here is a copy of An Introduction to God. It presents Yahowah's marvelous work.

If you read Questioning Paul and/or An Introduction to God, please share your concerns, criticisms, and conclusions.

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Offline James  
#354 Posted : Friday, April 13, 2012 2:01:49 PM(UTC)
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CF wrote:
is Yada the author of or connected with this website?


Yada wrote:
CF,

The goal of Yada Yah, Questioning Paul, and An Introduction to God is to present what Yahowah has to say about His Word, Name, Teaching, Covenant, Instructions, Invitations, and Way. And since the author who compiled this witness from Yahowah's testimony claims no qualifications, and isn't part of the story, he is trying to become as anonymous as possible. From his perspective, he is irrelevant. But he also recognizes that in the process of letting people know that these resources are available via talk radio interviews, it is nearly impossible to remain anonymous.

If you, however, need to know who compiled these books for reasons beyond their message, let us know why and we will respond.
We are not trying to be coy, just respectful of the fact that this is about Yahowah.

We have attached An Introduction to God, our most current resource.

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Offline James  
#355 Posted : Friday, April 13, 2012 2:03:04 PM(UTC)
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R wrote:

Hi,

My name is R from North Carolina. Just writing to thank you for your writings. I appreciate the work you have done. My family has been seeking Yahowah for twenty years now. Are you going to be having any organized Feast of Tabernacles observance this year?

-R


Yada wrote:
R,

It is my pleasure to share Yahowah's message because it is for all of us. I've attached An Introduction to God because it reflects my own quest to know and understand Yahowah better.

We try to be as anonymous as possible so we don't organize any public observances. Our mission is simply to share what Yahowah revealed and help others understand His Word, Name, Teaching, Covenant, Instructions, Invitations, and Way. My hope, however, is to complete a comprehensive edit of the chapter devoted to Sukah so that we can devote a month of radio shows to it and to Kippurym.

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Offline James  
#356 Posted : Tuesday, April 17, 2012 6:13:42 AM(UTC)
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J wrote:
Yada,



I need you help answering this question from Dr. M-- B--, a prominent Messianic Jew.



Please send me the exact answer that I can copy and paste and send to M--. He has a TV show and does many interviews and I want him to be accurate in his theology. He's never lost a debate.



I wrote to M-- saying that the Saturday Sabbath was ubiquitous in the ancient world. Perhaps I was wrong. Correct me if I was wrong. But I thought that it was universally known that you worship on Friday night until Saturday night.



Regardless of our opinion of Saul/Paul, Acts 21:35 still says:



As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.



So this clearly shows that the apostles still did a lot of "Jewish" stuff.



Michael is arguing Romans 14 but that is about diet and not about the Sabbath.



Thanks for your help.



J
M wrote:
J,



Quick question for you: Where was the Saturday Sabbath ubiquitous in the ancient world? Where is there evidence that Gentiles observed it? And why, when Jewish believers continued to observe the Saturday Sabbath did the early (Gentile) Church leaders think it was odd?



Also, doesn't the principle of Romans 14 apply to the Sabbath?



Blessings,



M--


Yada wrote:
J,



I forgot to convey this warning: You are not going to change a prominent Messianic Jew - especially a PhD who speaks publically on this issue. All you are going to do is make him mad - and probably motivate him to criticize me via ad hominem arguments.



Most Messianic Jews live in a mythical world between the Talmud and Pauline Doctrine. For them it is all about meshing the lies together.



But Shabat, like circumcision, like the seven Miqra'ey, like there only being one Covenant, and like the instruction to observe the Towrah undermines their beliefs. The faithful do not take kindly to such threats - especially when the criticism is from Yahowah.



Yada


J wrote:
Thanks for both emails. I'm not using your name in any of this, so far.



J


Yada wrote:
J, one last thought. Having seen some people succeed, and far more fail under similar circumstances, one of the things that I've learned is that success is directly related to the presenter's preparation and inversely related to the recipient's public pronouncements. So, you can increase your chances of helping others by becoming a student of Yah's Towrah teaching and by initially picking a more receptive audience. I suggest working with agnostics. They are the most open to evidence and reason.



I've attached the most current version of the ITG. It should be posted within a week. I've also finished my edit pass of the first 21 chapters of YY, and am hoping to have these edits posted on a new YY site soon.



Yada


J wrote:
You're funny. When I first suggested you write a primer/summary and you began writing ITG (ITY), I was hoping for about 135 pages, the "proven" length publishes like for a book to be "successful."



Instead you are at 927 pages and when you finish it, you will might around 945 pages, 7 times the typical length for a modern day popular book.



Perhaps Ken or someone else will do a 135 word primer to your primer to YY. That would give three levels of commitment. Seekers can read the primer to the primer. More dedicated readers can read your primer (ITG or ITY) and people who read either of the two can read the unabridged "bible" YY.



How many words are there in Yada Yahweh in its current state?



J


Yada wrote:
J,

I began a summary of the ITG and YY about a year ago, but after about ten pages I gave up on it. To be short, it presented every insight and conclusion is my words. And I'm not comfortable with that. Yahowah's words are not, and I don't think can be, compiled in a summary manner.

So, my friend, I've willingly and enthusiastically embraced Yahowah's style. There is no primer, no summary, just the opportunity to spend a lifetime learning. That is what we will be doing in heaven, so those who don't like it, won't much like heaven either.

I suspect that the ITG if set at standard published margins would be closer to 1500 pages when completed. As for YY, it's over 2500 pages, which is why it is taking so long to edit. And then QP is over 600 pages.

To know Yah and to understand His purpose and plan requires many, many years of prioritized study, and even then you'd just be scratching the surface. And that is how God wants it. An eternity is a long time to spend with someone unless they like what you love. Yahowah loves to towrah - teach. It is the Father in Him.

At this point I would sum up my perspective this way: less than one billionth of what can be known about Yahowah, His purpose and plan, is revealed in His Towrah, Prophets, and Psalms. Currently, I know and understand less than one billionth of that. And yet I'd be surprised if there were more than one hundred people on the planet today who know and understand Yahowah, His purpose and plan, better than I do. And that is pretty sad, because I know that I'm a dull and flawed implement that is barely scratching the surface.

That being the case, what do you suggest I leave out?

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Offline James  
#357 Posted : Wednesday, April 18, 2012 6:29:18 AM(UTC)
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B wrote:
Hi there, I am making good headways with the Introduction to God up to pg 182. Reading it every free moment I get. I know i need to make changes but i have this internal panic hoping it is all a bad dream! But i have to trust that the real thing WILL be worth it.
Just a few quick questions, where it says in various places that people fell postrate before him. Is this what it says or does it say something else, if it is what is says how does this relate to the standing before him that is contrasted.
Also Is it true or not that the set-apart-spirit came at penticost and that Yahowsha said he had to leave for it to come or is this theory errant thinking also?


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B,

Thus far I have not found a "fell down prostrate" passage which contradicts Yahowah's desire for us to stand and walk with Him. When these occur they are usually resolved by either recognizing that the people bowing are being judged, that Yah asks the individual to stand up, that the reaction isn't encouraged or even condoned by Yah, that the context require choosing a more accurate rendering of the letters written in the text than were chosen by the Masoretes, or recognizing that the passage isn't extant in any early manuscript.

This known, Yah has been abundantly clear with His Covenant. He is looking to adopt children, not worshippers. Just look at the two people in His name. They are standing.

The text of the Christian NT isn't reliable, so you can't establish doctrine through it. Even Yahowsha's words have been manipulated. That said, consider the context of Yahowsha's discussion in Yahowchanan. He is equating Himself with the Spirit throughout it because post FirstFruits, Yahowsha' is primarily a spiritual manifestation. He is not in His Passover body (because there was no bodily resurrection and Bikuwrym enables our spiritual rebirth). And while He said that He would be leaving (because He had fulfilled the purpose of the corporeal manifestation of Yah), He did not say that He had to leave for the Spirit to come. The Spirit was already there.

I hope this helps.

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Offline lassie1865  
#358 Posted : Wednesday, April 18, 2012 6:50:34 AM(UTC)
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I have been thinking similar thoughts about the Spirt. All our lives we have been taught that the Set-Apart Spirit "indwells" and "seals" us at the time we are baptized/receive the Messiah. This is supposedly different from the relationship people had with the Spirit before the Messiah's ministry. I have so many questions but can't quite articulate them adequately. I would love to see an indepth study on this subject; it is huge and probably needs its own thread.
Offline James  
#359 Posted : Saturday, April 21, 2012 9:09:08 AM(UTC)
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DB wrote:
Hello Yada,

I only have a single short question at the end of this, but I'd like to thank you, and offer my story, which you may choose certainly not to read :-)

My first introduction to your website was Ken Power's Future History, which opened my eyes to the inherent logic and testability of the scriptures. I had been an atheist, convinced that all religion was a sham, a self-delusion, a crutch for people who cannot bear thinking that their life is meaningless and that they will die permanently. Of course, I suppose from your perspective, that is true, but for me at the time, "religion" meant any sort of belief in a god, even a relationship with Yahowah. Future History showed me that the scriptures actually make a lot of sense and not merely claim but PROVE their own veracity, a message I had never heard from any church (and no wonder, given that if they taught God's word in its full glory, they would find their own teachings lacking).

Over the last few years since then, I have endeavored to learn the truth and to discover Yahowah; I bought a NKJV bible and read it though from beginning to end. I had not brought myself to read Yada Yahweh at that point, it was too long, and I assumed the bible itself would be more worthwhile at first than a commentary on it. At that point I saw that while Future History seemed to have shown me the light, made it clear, and showed how wonderfully self-consitent and prophetic God's words were, I could not find any real trace of the wonderfully clear prophesies Ken had talked about, nor almost any of the other things he had said which suddenly made Yehowah's words make so much sense, so much more sense than atheism. I couldn't see any reason to conclude about the three pathways after death, or a 6000 year timeline, or, well, anything.

I began to doubt again, thinking that yours was just another way of picking the words you liked, picking your own interpretation. The reason why I had began to search for Yahowah was because Future History showed me that it was not a delusion, that there was great logic to be found there, greater logic than in atheism, and in purely naturalistic scientific inquiry alone. But it seemed that such an impression was false ... I did however also conclude upon reading that Paul's epistles could not be inspired. It was evident, after the many many pages of Yahowah's words and then Yahowsha's words, that what Paul said didn't quite fit. I was inclined to believe in salvation through "faith" (though I interpreted as meaning "trust", and, by the way, most of the Protestant Christians I know also think of faith as meaning trust and reliance, not merely belief, although they do believe that the torah is *mostly* irrelevant). However, I could see that much of what Paul wrote had no basis in scripture, including his prescriptions for women. I didn't think of him as a false prophet, just as someone who hadn't got the entire picture correctly; but if he didn't have the entire picture, it couldn't be inspired scripture.

Then I began to doubt even further if any of this could be believed. If we don't trust Paul, how do we know we can trust anything. Is Ecclesiastes scripture? Is Esther? Is Proverbs? Is Acts? If Acts isn't scripture (being as it is about Paul) then can we trust Luke? Can we trust anything? Is Revelation scripture? If it isn't, then these prophesies that supposedly prove Yahowah is God aren't really inspired. And do they really prove it? Based on my reading, I couldn't see any really serious prophecy. Sure, there is a lot of it, but it all seems vague; I could only pick small parts of it that seemed to fit actual events. Very little of it seemed like something that actually proved it was Yahowah's word, as in something that it is inconceivable that it could have been written by man without God's help. I actually returned to the website to re-read Future History, to see whether it really is being honest with respect to the Bible, or if it s cherry-picking the things that make it sound good. And that is when I saw the relatively new Questioning Paul, and agreed with it almost instantly, having myself concluded that if at least the Torah was God's word, and Yehowsha was God, then Paul could not be inspired. And reading Questioning Paul, I could tell that there was much I had not learned about God from Future History, and so I have now at last turned to Yada Yahweh.

Now, I know that you are in the process of editing it, but I see you have already added mentions of Paul, at least at the start (I have read up to Genesis - Chay). And if I understand correctly, the planned Introduction To God is sort of a separate text, a summary of Yada Yahweh? If so, is there a point up to which Yada Yahweh is edited, a point at which I should stop and wait for updates? How far in are you?

My most important question though, the reason for this mammoth email, is a small question. I am trying to approach Yada Yahweh with skepticism (trying to see if I can actually be sure that God's word as you present it is trustworthy and reliable, not that it merely SOUNDS like it), and so I occasionally take a look at other translations of passages. I understand that you say that they are all either poor translations, or based on corrupted alter versions of the texts (though I am merely taking your word for that for now, and that is quite serious actually, as you depart quite far from the common translations) but I still take a look to see. At least I can now see how the logic in God's words is found when you really look carefully at them. Seeing the difference between your rendering and the NKJV, I am not surprised that reading the NKJV I could not appreciate the wonderful consistency of God's Word. But the tiny tiny question that leads to this immense email is:

Why, in your rendering of Psalm 19, do you miss out 19:10?
Do you have suspicions that it is not authentic, ones that you explain later in the book? If so, I will continue reading, waiting to finish the whole thing in future before getting concerned about any problems.
Or are you just in the process of editing? In that case I will wait until you are finished.

It's just that you have such a wonderful analysis of the rest of the Psalm, and you miss this passage ... it's exactly the kind of thing I want to make sure you're not doing, thus proving that I can trust your analysis and your translation, and thus that I can trust God's Word (that you are not twisting the words to make them seem self-consistent, logical and reliable, that they are in fact reliable because God created them that way). I'm sure that you have a very good reason though, but I want to know what it is :-)


Oh, and a P.S.
I started looking at Islam as well, to see whether I can tell that Yahowah's Word is noticeably superior to it. So far, several surahs into the Qur'an, it doesn't seem too discernible in quality and logic to what various churches teach, but infinitely inferior to God's Word as you share it. For that I am very grateful to you.
I have read Tea with Terrorists, but not Prophet of Doom, and I probably don't plan to ... but I just wanted to ask ... I had a look at this http://www.scribd.com/do...vealed-by-Bassam-Zawadi, and he basically accuses you of taking some things out of context and so on. I also notice that most of things he talks about (and the ones you talk about?) are from sayings, and not the actual Qur'an, and well ... I wouldn't judge Yahowah's Word by what someone else (like Paul) said while claiming to represent it. Anyway, it's related to my tiny question because after reading this I am looking out for anything that could be considered "quoting out of context" in Questioning Paul and Yada Yahweh (and I have found nothing). But I was wondering how honest do you perceive yourself to be when you say that your approach to studying Islam was the same as your approach to studying the bible? I mean surely you were already convinced of the trustworthiness of Yahowah's words, and thus you knew from the outset that Islam could not be true?

Ooh, one more P.P.S
Which books of the "bible" do you consider reliable, inspired scripture? For example, I think you mention that Peter's epistle is prophetic, but I had a look after finishing Questioning Paul, and he uses the word "grace" too! Surely if you are correct, then if Peter's epistle was inspired, it would not have used "gratia"? I checked the first rendering of the Greek text I found with Google, and it says gratia, not some other word that may have been mistranslated as grace. And then there's books like Esther, which don't really fit, and Ecclesiastes, which looks like an atheist concluding that there is no purpose to life ...
And complementary to this, how much of the scriptures have you investigated with your "etymological microscope"? Since you were planning to defend Paul, but while studying it closely discovered it could not be scripture, I presume that means you had not studied his epistles previously? I can certainly imagine it must be a lot of work to do what you do for even a single chapter ...


There, that's it. Sorry for flooding you with such a wall of text. I hope it makes you feel your work is appreciated :-)
DB


Yada wrote:
Dear DB,

I enjoyed reading your letter. Your journey is but a modest twist on the story so many of us share. While I came out of Christianity, most of those with whom I've come to know though YY, QP, and now the ITG were formerly atheists turned agnostics. Yahowah is much more appealing to an open, thinking, receptive, and rational agnostic than He is to a religious individual. The primary difference between you and the many hundreds of others who have come to know Yahowah through these presentations is that most stumble on Prophet of Doom and then migrate to Yada Yahweh. You are the first that has come this way via Future History.

Questioning Paul is the second most rational, albeit difficult, thing I've done in my life. Of the hundreds who have read it and expressed their conclusions, everyone seems to concur with the realization that Paul did not speak for God. And for us, it has been as if a great burden has been lifted from us. Paul was always the odd man out who had to be rationalized.

Speaking of rational, the most relentlessly logical and challenging thing I've done should you be wondering has been the attached Introduction to God. I think you'll enjoy it. The ITG began as a rewrite of the Re'syth Prologue of YY, and then expanded to help my youngest son share his relationship with Yahowah with someone he was seriously dating at the time. But it has taken a life of its own and is now a treatise on the seven topics most important to Yahowah: His Word, His Name, His Teaching, His Covenant, His Terms, His Invitations, and His Way.

As for the 10th verse of the 19th Psalm, I skipped it because it I thought it lost too much in translation and didn't add enough to our knowledge base or understanding relative to the Towrah. It was written to be sung in Hebrew, was set to music, and the poetic terms meant much more to the listener's ear than they do to us today. Moreover, if I recall correctly, in the ITG I covered the symbolism of honey and money elsewhere in the text. Also, since you are a proponent of not picking and choosing, but instead laying everything out for us to consider, the ITG's presentation of the 119th Psalm is the single most rewarding thing I've ever undertaken. And all 176 verses are there for you to ponder. So there is merit in full disclosure.

Moving on to your second question, I've completed a substantial, albeit still inadequate, edit of the first 22 chapters of YY. I hope to have them posted on a completely redesigned site over the next couple of weeks. I try to be honest with readers. I'm learning, and as I learn I discover that there are many things which I have to correct in previous writings. I don't claim to have all of the answers, only that I know where to look for them.

To answer your third question on Prophet of Doom, it is the most contextual, chronological, and comprehensive presentation of the Qur'an and Hadith ever compiled. Further, the Qur'an is Hadith (an Oral Report from Muhammad and his Companions), and the Hadith are essential to Islam. Without the Hadith, Islam does not exist. I'd encourage you to read POD. It is the fourth most rational thing I've written, after the ITG, QP, and YY. The Qur'an will make considerably more sense to you set into the context of Muhammad's life - which is the basis of POD.

Regarding the queries listed in your PPS, those questions are all answered early on in the ITG - in the Word section. Apart from Yahowsha's words, I don't think much of the "NT." And while I'm interested in Peter's opinions, even John's, thus their letters, I do not see their letters as Scripture - not even close. But, if you are still searching for answers on these questions after reading the ITG, please send me a note and I'll do my best to provide an answer.

Let me know what you think of the attached ITG. And if you get through it (850 pages) before I get the revised YY chapters posted, let me know and I'll send you the revisions of every chapter in the first 2 Volumes.

Lastly, I do an internet radio program M-F 11 AM to 12.30 PM EDT (http://radio.yadayahweh.com/). The Chat Room is very active. But you can also listen to the archives. The show is currently focused on the ITG and goes well beyond what is written. We also have a forum on the YY site, and it is filled with very smart former atheists. The link is on top of the www.YadaYah.com homepage.

Again, thanks for the letter. I've enjoyed getting to know you.

Yada
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Offline James  
#360 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2012 4:55:18 AM(UTC)
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R wrote:
Mr. Winn;
Yes you are right; Paul is a false Prophet. This means I need to be circumcised and soon, so I can take the second passover. I messed up the first passover I took the bread and the wine alright on the 5th of April but keep the the first feast on Friday the 6th and Thursday the 10th. They should have been on the 5th. and the 9th. So I will be redoing the Passover on May the 4 th. also the a sabbath on the 10 th. .
About fifteen years ago I prayed about whether I should be circumcised. It has been a long wait but now I have the answer. Yes I do need to be circumcised.
I have looked on the inter net and found no help. Today I called up a synagogue in Mobile Alabama about 55 miles east of here and inquired about being circumcised I was told they don't circumcised people who believe jesus was God. I explained that his name wasn't jesus but that did not matter. I wasn't surprised. I was able to find out that a 64 year old man should not try this himself, but should check with a urologist or surgeon. Without wasting your time with unneeded explanations I can't hardly buy food. OK I need to be circumcised. How am I going to get this done? Do you have any suggestions?There is no money to pay a surgeons and hospital bill. How am I to take the passover properly and not be circumcised? If you can't help me I don't know where to humanly turn. I will pray of course.
I am listening to and reading your material and learning a lot. I appreciate what you are doing. I came up with a lot of the same conclusions you have come up with after six years of intense study and forty plus of observing the sabbath and feast days even though many of the actual days which I kept were wrong . I did the best I could with what I had. You have confirmed much of what I have expected to be the truth in many areas. Thank you so much. I hope what I am now going to write isn't taken as mean or to put you down I don't mean it that way. There are ways though that to my understanding you still have some Christian crap. Would you care if I share with you the areas in which I think you are "full of it". If you aren't than I am; and if I am than I want to learn what is right,and make all needed changes. Now that you have confirmed what I long expected about Paul I have a lot of crap of my own to get rid of.
Changing the subject. We are to come out of Babylon. The Jews brought back from Babylon some concepts that are not scriptural but permeate Judaism and thus Christianity. The Babylonian new moon is the first crescent Yah's new moon is the covered moon ( I know this is not a well developed proof I need to get to bed). Carefully check out in Hebrew Lev 23:32 I am expecting you to find a half day high sabbath not a definition of the time period for how to keep the sabbath day. If the Congregation of Yahweh's understanding is incorrect than this verse would be stating an exception to the rule which makes good sense in relation to the day of Atonement. This is what we use to believe but have come to realize there is more here that we first realized. Now look at Gen 1:5 the day begins when it first gets light. There is nothing set apart about darkness there is no sabbath night or sabbath darkness that I know of. Yahsuah mentioned that there are 10 hours in a day, not 24. Israel was culturally in the Egyptian orbit so to speak they had the concept that day started just like our language in the morning. The 24 hour day concept comes from Babylon. Your new moon is Babylonian not the covered moon at the beginning of the day that is in Towrah. Lets come out of Babylon! You think it doesn't matter. Yahsuah (please excuse me if I have misspelled his name) condemned the Pharisees for not being able to discern the sign of the times ( off hand I don't have the scripture in Mathew if needed I can come up with it). They were Babylonian. They and the Christians and Moslems still are Babylonian. Lets come out of Babylon! I must get to bed sorry this is so brief . May Yah bless you. Yah's servant R


Yada wrote:
R,

Yes, once you come to realize that there is no way to reconcile Yahowah's insistence on circumcision with Paul's animosity towards it, to be rational, you have to discard Paul's testimony as false. And that means to participate in Passover and to enter Yahowah's home, as a man you have to be circumcised.

There are five or six men plus or minus ten years of your age who have recently been circumcised. What's interesting is that Yahowah does not provide any information on how much has to be cut to qualify. Also, I rather like your approach to getting around the cost issue. Perhaps there is a way to visit other synagogues, or begin a dialog with them over the phone, and say that you have been reading the Towrah and that you want to be towrah observant. Quote the passages on circumcision from the Towrah and say that since you want to embrace the Covenant and participate in Passover that you need to be circumcised. So you are asking them to be Towrah observant, and do what the Towrah mandates, which is to circumcise you.

If they ask about Christianity, tell them that you are more opposed to Christianity, to the myth of a Lord Jesus Christ, to the myths of Christmas and Easter, of Sunday Worship, than they are. You just want to be Towrah observant. Period.

And I'll ask the guys who recently had this done if they have any ideas.

You already know that I'm far more interested in the purpose of the Miqra'ey than the timing of them. Yahowah gave us all the information we need to understand their purpose and not enough to precisely and confidently determine their timing. But since you have asked, I'll revisit the passages you have listed.

And while I'll try to keep an open mind, I've been over this material scores of times, each time trying to ascertain the truth. And as I understand Yahowah's initial presentation of Pesach and Yahowsha's fulfillment of it in 33, both appear to be in conflict with your conclusion. Also, it is so Yah to begin a chodesh - time of renewal with light growing than with light diminishing. And I do not think that Yahowsha' was condemning the Pharisees for their inaccurate understanding of the correlation between the moon cycles and the beginning of the month. I think He was addressing far bigger issues. But as you may know, this is the area where I always admit that I am unsure.

I'm not suggesting that I'm right here, only that I've questioned this many times, and thus far the conclusions I'm following but not promoting as authoritative seem to be the most logical and consistent to me. But I have been wrong before.

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#361 Posted : Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:38:06 AM(UTC)
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R,

If you would, please share with us how much the drive-out price of your circumcision will be. It might be that some us would be willing to help you cover that expense. I have not discussed this with anyone else, but I know the hearts of several of the brothers here. Let us know.

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R wrote:
Mr. Winn
I wrote to you two days ago concerning circumcision. I checked this morning with a Urologist and found that I would not be able to get it done by next Friday, but that Med-Care would pay the bill. So that takes care of how to pay. As usual I will just have to do the best I can. I have waited fifteen: years what is a week or two more. Hope all is well with you. May Yah bless you and protect you. I don't know if you know this or not and I question if I should say anything; My brother who works for the Air Force , when as if he knew of you, replied only that Gen. Schwartzkoph and Gen Powel have a $10,000,000.00 bounty on their heads but the Moslems are offering $100,000,000.00 to who ever kills you. I will try to remember to pry for your protection. When I was in college I prayed 45 minutes morning and night and felt the only result was sore knees, and one and a half hours less of much needed sleep. I find prayer works much better if done as needed. I spend little time if any in such activities as making my knees sore any more which is now over 40 years and my relation with Yahwah is none the worse. When I am standing with my eyes open and commune ( I hope that is not a bad word) with Yah I feel that it works not just better but that it works period. As has been said in speech club many time Stand up, speak up (say what you have to say). shut up and sit down. May Yah's protection be upon you.
Yah's servant R


Yada wrote:
R,

That is great news! I am also told that the VA will do it free if you were in the military. But it sure beats having to use the rabbis.

I dedicated the entire program today to anonymously answering your letter. I hope you listen to it. I came away embracing the same positions relative to timing, but I really enjoyed doing the study. If you listen to the 1.5 hour archive today, let me know what you think. I examined every passage you referenced and some more besides. And as always, I'm not saying that I'm right, only saying that Yah's testimony leads me in a particular direction regarding these timing questions.

I have received hundreds of death threats, but I was not aware that my head was worth one hundred million. Even my wife might consider doing me in for that.

I appreciate your prayers and support.

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I appreciate your reply I know your are a busy man,so I will try to not ramble on.
My first steps in developing a relationship with Yah came from the false or at least imperfect prophet Herbert Armstrong. I was a member of the Worldwide C of G. from 1971 till1995. I left due to doctrinal changes which were unacceptable I knew I had to leave. Being a member there was about as good a place as any I know of at the time ( except for what I termed bowage: that's a word I made up, you won't find in the dictionary, it is still a good word).
I was in global C. of G. for a while and I also went to a reform synagogue at the same time ( there is a story there that I won"t go into now). I learned a tremendous amount in towrah study there. After several years I was told my beliefs were unacceptable in the synagogue. This I took as meaning I should leave. No hard feelings. I also got the feeling I wasn't welcome in Global so I stopped going there. A small home fellowship (closes friends) voted to mark me or something like that. Impressive credentials.
Why am I telling you this? Just to let you know where I am coming from. I have gotten all of my understanding of the yearly sabbaths days from the WC of G. I have wondered whether they were right. You are as far as I can tell at this time, close to what I have gotten from them : but in several areas you seem to be really in need of up dating and we may need to be updated in other areas. I say we as I am including the small congregation of Yah that I get together with on the yearly sabbaths. Mr Miller our one and only minster or what ever an appropriate term would be was kicked out of Ambassador College for trying to observe the new moons (observer towrah). Herbert did the kicking out personally. Isn't that bowage?. Bow and worship! I felt like on one hand they were so much more right than everyone else that I could not go anywhere else: but on the other that what we had was ASS HOLE Christianity. Now that is not a nice thing to say about one what ever it should be called. On the topic of bowage: my ink pen ran out of ink in the middle of an hour plus sermon once, so I raised my head and just listened to Mr. Mc Crady the minister. He flew into a rag and said in front of several hundred people that we should not be looking up but taking all this down. I sat the rest of the sermon with my head reverently in a position of bowage. Continuing he let us know in no uncertain terms that it was not Frank Mc Crady seeking but rather it was JESUS CHRIST Himself. I was (excuse the ^%$@%^%$) ______ . I went home and had some words in prayer. I was not happy and I let it be known. Soon after he was replaced.
As a word Smith you have expressed a lot of my thoughts, feelings and conclusions much better then I have been able to. I agree with you in so much. One thing which really bothers me is your view of the "uncalled". What happened to the White throne Judgement? What about the Last Great Day Lev 23:36. The Feast of Tabernacles is Seven days vrs. 34,39,40,41,42. Yahsuah stood up on the LAST GREAT DAY OF THE FEAST ( sorry I don't have my strongs here so I don't have a verse). My mother and father will die soon they have done the best they can but they are not called. When they die they will cease to exist they will be dead. This I understand. We are on the same page to this point. Yah has a lot of time lots and lots of it. He waited till it was his time for me to be circumcised. It was in his time that I came to understand how He could be one not two ( just get Paul out of the way). That has been in the last week or so! Yah has a plan in his time everyone who has not had a chance will get one maybe a very long one. We are told what we need to know now but we aren't told more that we either need or can handle. Yah will work with a small group probably not many million maybe not even that much. This is a start not the finish. Yah has much time.. I have looked for the dry bone chapter in Ezekiel and couldn't find it- maybe it is in a different prophet. Somewhere it says ( where have we heard that before) a mans like will be as a tree. Also consider Moses pleading for Israel when Yah finally had enough with Israel. I think this example of Moses and Yah should tell us something very important. We will become part of Yah, and we will help Yah grow.
Sorry for taking so much of your time, one other thing though. In 1995 when the WC of G. folded My wife and another friend of ours ask me to not just reject the church's new teachings, but to continue to study. I spent six years in intense studying trying to figure out what does new covenant in his blood mean. Several years ago I picked it up again I gave up in disgust. I figured if there where an explanation some where it sure wasn't in what I term the personal Covenant. (Yah deals with individuals not a national covenant level). I figured it must be in symbolism in the towrah psalms or Prophets. A very short time latter I came across Yada Yahweh. This story I must tell I was looking on the inter net while working as a substitute teacher to kill time and stay awake. I decided to see what was coming down under the name of Yahweh. Last time one Yahweh bin Yahweh a cultist was getting bowage from his worshipers by having them kill elderly people in Florida. I am glad you arn't doing that. Now that I am listening to your program I am most interest when you talk about the passover lamb. Recently you made reference about the passover sacrifice we would not understand it from a scriptural reference. I did not get whether this is still the case. Maybe you do but I don't. Yes he died for the sins of the people it is one of the reasons he came. ( there are other reasons given in the renewed covenant ). But it is not as simple as it first looks; at least to me. Is this where you are at? I have some Ideas they make sense to me but have no scriptural bases that I know of. It was when I tried to get in put at the synagogue that I was told my beliefs where unacceptable in the synagogue.
Thank you so much for showing me so thoroughly that Paul is is such a poisonous source of unreliable garbage. Getting rid of him is such a blessing. May Yah bless you and protect you.
Yah" s servant R
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Yada wrote:
R,

I don't claim to have all of the answers, or to be correct on every issue. I only claim that I know where to look for answers (Towrah, Prophets, and Psalms), and that the answers there are reliable.

I take absolutely no stock in the teachings of religious individuals, so if something I've shared is similar to someone else, then I would assume that we are both reading the same words from the same source.

As for God dying, that did not happen. As for a renewed covenant, that has not yet occurred. You have to be very careful with the Greek "Christian New Testament." It is neither scripture nor remotely reliable.

I'm half way through editing Yada Yah, correcting my many mistakes. The revised chapters should be posted within a week or so. But there is plenty to read in An Introduction to God as it is over 1000 pages of Scripture citations and commentary. I think you have a copy, but if not, then let me know and I'll send it to you.

You should not expect someone to agree with your every position, or to even value all of the same issues you prioritize. While we are seeking to know the same Author, there is so much to learn we all choose our areas of focus. Mine are guided in part by the 119th Psalm. And since we make our observations from different perspectives, and using different approaches, our interpretations and conclusions will differ. Heck, the reason I'm editing YY is that I'm still learning and thus correcting and refining my previous thoughts.

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MS wrote:
Hi, I have a lot to say, about both prophet of doom and Yada Yahweh ...where do I begin? Lol.
I came across prophet of doom 7 years ago, I was having serious doubts about Islam after reading the Koran (a gift from a muslim friend who I worked with at the time).

As a Christian at the time, I was limited to the questions I needed to ask myself after hoping I could some how unite both beliefs by showing the wonderful similarities in an art exhibition I planned to curate and produce work for.

Getting back to the Koran, I knew something was wrong, though I tried to kid myself Allah was the same God. I soon began asking myself who the real God really is.
I left my church since they couldn't seem to care or understand what the hell I was going on about.
Within a week of research about Islam on the web I stumbled across prophet of doom, wasn't that hard to find but when I found it I knew i was'nt going crazy when i knew something was seriously wrong with the religion I was brought into and Islam, the one I am ashamed to say i once nearly considered to be true because of the leaflet/DVD propaganda muslims hand out in the city centre.
I'm not writing you this to give credit to you Yada or even this web sight but it has been a long awaited time that its taken for me to write to this but I'd just like to personally say keep it up.
Of all the books and different sources of information and ours I've invested reading as appose to doing art or teaching at school...yada Yahweh has been one of the most exciting amazing web sights I have ever come to know. It introducede to Gods name, it talks about science and creation (and I love learning about science! I'm like a big kid when it comes to this stuff, I just can't get enough, that's why from a child I like drawing, using my imagination to try and understand things scientifically.
As an artist I have always felt there is defiantly something more to life than just chance and so I always felt that God Is out there but my religion was poisoning me from knowing the truth.

I don't think I've missed a single episode of Yada Yahweh ever since I stumbled across it trying to seek confirmation that Allah is Satan.
Coming to know the truth has been a great acomplishment to take the next step.
I had doubts about Paul way back, I always put myself down as not being qualified to take up the challenge of a debate. I thought if there was a problem you guys would mention it.
Eventually you did, reading questioning Paul totally confirmed more than I was ever even willing to go into but it has been an amazing turning point in my life again.

For the last year I have been considering circumcision, I was hoping to have it done this year but then arounds April time this year everything fell apart around me.
I lost my job, can't help feeling I really put my foot in it after a debate with a teacher infront of the kids on the Y'Israel Palestine subject.
Then a few weeks after that the women I got engaged to and have been with for three years walked out on me, I couldn't say I blame her for walking away even though we had a wonderful two and a half years together that felt like a life time, but at 27 I've lost the job and girl of my dreams, I can't afford to be circumcised (though I think that was something my ex wife to be would have never understood and separated over) and as pitiful as this all may sound as I know we have the apocalypse on the horizon in the next 13 or years and all this death and everything while here's me wining about my personal life but..the last few weeks have been a bit depressing, I've been so down about everything I know the Torah is a good place to turn to but in the mean time I've just been surging of playing all the yada Yahweh shows to milk on.
I can't tell you how badly hurt and wounded this has made me feel and yet I know in parts I have no one to blame but myself, it's my responsibility. I'm just gratefull for all the years of joy listening to this show while I work on an art exhibition or art work aimed at exposing Christianity and Islam as something fun and wonderful.
At the same time I've never felt like I'm in limbo before in my life as I do know, no job, no circumcision, no marriage, no way of celebrating pass over when I turn 28.


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Yada wrote:
MS,

You're story, as unique as it may seem, is similar to so many others who have come this way. Trying to figure out what is wrong with Islam is usually the trigger which begins the search, one which brings them to PoD. When a person like yourself who is open minded and genuinely searching for the truth encounters the documentation contained in PoD, their suspicions are confirmed. For many, this leads them to YY, and especially to QP, because those who question Islam instinctively suspect that there is something wrong with Paul's letters. And thus far, to the best of my knowledge, no one who has read QP views him as being reliable.

YY, even with all of its faults, has served to introduce many souls to Yahowah. Even in spite of my blunders, the case Yahowah makes on His behalf is so compelling it is a wonder so few know Him. Since you are listening to the radio programs, I've attached a current copy of An Introduction to God.

While there is nothing better than coming to know Yahowah and embracing His Covenant, doing so almost always fractures human relationships. This is what Yahowsha' told us to expect. Too many people love far too many lies for those who love the truth to be popular. So while I'm sorry for your loss, you are in good company. And most all of us have loved and been hurt at one time or another. And most all of us find someone else to love who loves us in return.

While Yah avoids interfering in freewill, which precludes Him from giving you a job that would otherwise have gone to someone else, I have seen Him meet the needs of those who have actively relied upon Him, at least so long as they were actively engaged in the process of trying to earn a living. So keep at it. You'll reengage.

Over the years I've received a number of letters from men, albeit usually two times your age, usually struggling financially, who have come to realize that they need to be circumcised to participate in Passover, the Covenant, and to enter Yah's Home. All have become circumcised, most affordably and relatively easily. Those in America took advantage of the VA, Medicare, or they went to a Rabbi. Yah does not specify how much needs to be cut or who does the snipping. So as you are out and about searching for a job I'd pursue the options and see what options come your way. It always seems to work out.

But let us know how you are progressing and if we can help. In the mean time, the more you are driven by your mind through observing Yah's teaching, and the less by feelings, the better off you will be. Stay focused on the big picture - Yahowah and His Covenant.

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DB wrote:
Dear Yada,

I've read through the Introduction to God.

I think it's quite well written. It does still feel a little too long ... you're essentially repeating the same message many times, looking at different verses. But then, you're just following what Yahowah does, and people don't listen anyway!
And I cannot obviously see anything you could cut out, so I suppose it's a moot point.

Yada wrote:
As you've noted, I've accepted Yah's style which is to say the same thing many times and many ways. It helps reinforce and affirm the truth. And I find that I'm always learning something new. Besides, through repetition we remember.


I've been keeping track of things that seemed wrong or out of place, as well as obvious errors. I though you might appreciate an edit by someone else, given how long the book is. I won't bother you with the small errors though unless you tell me you want my list. They're mostly things like spelling that I recorded if they stood out enough to make me notice them :-)

Yada wrote:
I'm interested in correcting errors big and small. I'm also interested in suggestions for improvement. So yes, please send me your edits and criticisms.


You haven't entirely clearly stated what you consider to be scripture. I understand you focus on the Towrah, Prophets and Psalms, as well as the words of Yahowsha (with caution) and Revelation.

Yada wrote:
Yes, I concur with this criticism. I'm only forthright in sharing my conclusions up to a point. And you have correctly stated what I've concluded.


But what do you think of Esther and Eccelsiastes? And you are sure Revelation fits into all of it?

Yada wrote:
I'm just not certain regarding Esther and Ecclesiastes. I've not found a reason to cite either in over 4000 pages of Scriptural review. And that speaks volumes. So I'm leaning against them. As for Revelation, I have come to see it as either a conversation between Yahowsha' and Yahowchanan, or via one of Yahowah's messengers, translated into Greek. Most of the things that Yahowsha' shares are supported in the Tanakh - especially the associations between Satan and Babylon. But we do not know how much it has been tampered with.


Now that I've finished reading your introduction, I plan to start going through the scriptures myself, so eventually I hope I would be able to answer this myself, but I'm still interested in your opinion.

Yada wrote:
That is the perfect position. I'll be interested in your opinion as well. But, since there is so much to learn from that which we know we can trust, I'm not as concerned with investing the time trying to determine if E and E are reliable.


Another thing that I wanted to ask is about the book of Job - obviously the original Hebrew probably needs to be looked at, but the English translations give the impression that Job paints a different picture of ha Satan than the rest. That is, in Job, he appears to be simply acting as a "prosecutor" so to speak, trying to show Yahowah that Job is not righteous. It doesn't really seem to mesh with either Satan or the Towrah's view of righteousness as you describe them...

Yada wrote:
I don't see a conflict here in that Satan has more than one agenda and thus strategy. One is to justify his rebellion, which has him demeaning man before God. doing so shows that his view of man is more accurate than God's. The other is to corrupt man into believing that he is God.

That said, Yowb is the hardest fit into the fabric of Scripture. It exists outside of the timeline and outside of the covenant. So we share some concerns.

_____________

Now I'm going to go through my list of questions that came up while reading in order.

Aaah yes, the first thing that occurs to me is that I think the ITG could do with an overview of how prophecy, or at least somewhere at the start a link or reference to where one can find an overview in Yada Yah. At the moment, I think it's structured well for a Christian to read, but for an agnostic or atheist, they don't really care if Paul is wrong or whatnot. They want to see if they have any reason to read about God at all, and if prophecy is the means by which Yahowah proves He is reliable, that is what they need to see.
Specifically, somewhere close to the start.


Yada wrote:
This is another valid criticism. I'm in the midst of editing the fourth of seven volumes of Yada Yah. It focuses far more on prophecy and thus appeals more to an agnostic. So when the edit is complete, I'll intertwine the two books. The new YY and ITG sites are being designed to accomplish this specific goal.

Also, my plan is to condense the edited fourth volume of YY which is all prophetic so that it becomes the Way chapter of the ITG.

Still, I agree with your criticism. The ITG is too focused on being anti-religious as opposed to proving Yah's existence. Since I'd accomplished much of that already in YY, I skipped an essential element of the ITG. So, when I have some time, I'll put together a fifty page insert to the first chapter of the ITG which uses prophecy to prove that Yahowah authored the Tanakh.


I wrote down while reading it "If I had seen this first, and not Future History, I suspect I would have given it up quickly", because it was Future History's promise of PROOF that overcame the atheist in me, and so I kept reading. Given how long the ITG is to get through, it requires some motivation, so I think it's important. As you say yourself, it's great news for an agnostic that there is proof, but you don't really show it.

Yada wrote:
Your criticism is valid. I'll come up with a fifty-page "proof" section for the Word chapter to deliver on the promise. But, there is plenty of proof in the ITG, albeit of a different kind. The quality of the message and plan exceed human authorship.

Yada Yah began life as a comprehensive edit of FH. I hope to have my corrections of what I originally wrote completed within a couple of months, so I'd like to know if you think that its prophetic emphasis delivers.


There is, however,. proof of Yah's authorship in the ITG.

Yada wrote:
We agree.


The next thing was, a demonstration of each of the stems when you introduce them would be very helpful. At some point later on you write "David flew the plane" as an example of the piel stem, and I think you have one more example later. But when you introduce the stems at the beginning, your description of them kind of lost me ... a clear illustration like that would be very nice.

Yada wrote:
I'll work on this some more, providing as clear a presentation of them as possible. I've learned a great deal focusing on something that most every translator ignores. And I'm particularly fascinated by the lack of tenses, the moods and conjugations. But I didn't know any of this prior to writing the ITG. I ignored most of it, focusing only on definitions, when writing YY. It was early on in the process of doing the translations for the ITG that I came to focus on the unique nature of Hebrew grammar. And the more I observed the lack of time-based tenses, the stems, conjugations, forms, and moods, the more I learned. I've come to see Hebrew as the only language which accurately reflects Yahowah's nature and purpose.

So, I'm glad that you have asked me to develop this aspect of the book further. I agree with you.

__________

There are some parts where it feels like you say "this may well be the most enlightening passage ..." almost several times a page. I understand, of course, that all of the scriptures are extremely enlightening, but your exaltation still feels almost comically overused ...

Yada wrote:
Yep. While it is sincere, I do it too often.

__________

I was wondering whether by now you are almost fluent in reading Hebrew?
You state that you still check the lexicons every time, but i was wondering whether you can basically read a passage in Hebrew script outright now? After 10 years of study?

Yada wrote:
I mostly search the lexicons now for the unfamiliar words - those used very infrequently. But you really have to be careful in becoming self reliant. For example, my understanding of qara' has grown over time. The same could be said of many other words like 'anah. So using the lexicons to search roots and additional meanings is a useful strategy.

I've actually become more comfortable with the Ancient Hebrew script. But it's hard to find documents written in it.

__________

Yet another question (sorry, I actually did keep a list) which occurs, this one more general - if Yahowsha' appeared before, 5 times, why was He born? And what did it mean?

Yada wrote:
Yahowsha' was not born. If I said so, then I erred. A child was born unto us and a Son was given. The child who body the Spirit occupied was born, but not Yahowsha'.

That said, Yahowsha' was begotten in that He has not always existed set apart from Yahowah. There would have been no reason for Yahowah to diminish any aspect of Himself to human form prior to conceiving the physical universe.


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I completely agree that you should look at Yahowsha's words and how they fit in. In fact one of the things that bothers me is that, while it is mostly Paul who is in conflict with the Torah and with your interpretation in general, I feel there are some things Yahowsha' said that don't make sense.

Yada wrote:
That will be my next project. I want to translate Yahowsha's words from Greek to English and then compare what He said to the Towrah, Prophets, and Psalms.


Which also leads to: you say you treat anything in the "New Testament" with extreme caution, even Yahowsha's recorded words, because there are so many manuscripts and they diverge. But has it occurred to you that perhaps if we had more manuscripts of the Towrah, they would diverge as well? After all, we only have 2 - Masoretic and Qumran, and they diverge quite a bit! How do we know that the Qumran scrolls are any more reliable than any particular one of the many manuscripts of the "New Testament"? Perhaps all the other ones (which would lead us to exercise the same caution as you do with Yahowsha's words) just didn't survive?


Yada wrote:
We actually have many MSS that are part of the DSS collection - averaging as many as 20 different copies from different MSS of most of the Towrah's books and of many of the prophets. They differ slightly among themselves - and usually in vocalization choices or in the noun or verb form of the same word. So the differences between the MT and the DSS are minor compared to the earliest MSS of the Greek. There the differences exceed the commonality.

One of the reasons that I'm glad that Yah is prone to repetition is because it gives us so many ways to verify His instructions. So while i'd love to have access to the original, there is plenty to learn using what we have.

There is only one perfect autograph of the Towrah, and it is sitting beside the Ark of the Covenant. I've asked Yah for the opportunity to photograph it, but so far it appears that my time is best spent learning and sharing based upon the available text. Also, in 2033 Yah is going to give us our own personal copy, integrating his Towrah into the fabric of our lives.

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It also occurred to me that while you make a good case that Yahowsha' ben Nuwn is a strong parallel to Yahowsha' ben Yahowah, but I don't think you justify anywhere including the book of "Joshua" in your 6 books of the Towrah! You say it like a discovery you made, and you piqued my interest, but then I don't remember that you ever explained why.

Yada wrote:
Actually, I do make the point while translating Yahowsha'. In Yahowsha' it actually says that he was writing Towrah. However, the point isn't particularly insightful once you come to realize that Yah's towrah - teaching is reflected in every book. Everything Yahowah inspired is part of His towrah.


Additionally, did I just miss it or forget it? How do you determine that Joshua"s father Nun is "Nuwn" and that it means "Almighty"? A quick look at Wikipedia tells me this is not common knowledge. Now a lot of the things you have found are not common knowledge, of course, but I don't remember if you explain where you get this snippet from, given that scholars are thinking it's probably an Egyptian name or something and generally don't know what it means

Yada wrote:
You either missed it, or were reading an old draft. Nuwn does not mean "almighty," it means "perpetual - as in eternal and always existing." The reference to Nuwn occurs at the beginning of the section devoted to Yahowsha'.

Indeed, much of what is revealed in the ITG is not common knowledge. Even though it is based upon knowledge revealed 3500 years ago, it would make a good dissertation.

I was once troubled by the idea that so many profound insights from Yah's Word were revealed in YY and the ITG and nowhere else. But then once I came to grips with the idea that only one in a million would avail themselves of Yah's mercy by observing His instructions, I came to understand why such revelations were so unfamiliar.


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Another note - while you eventually justify your rendering of asher' by explaining all the connotations it carries (and it's one of your favourite words if I understand you correctly), it still feels wrong and nonsensical, at least to me, to add "relationally" everywhere, where it basically just means "which/that/who" etc. It is, after all, very directly conveying a relationship between words. In many examples it just seems like it shouldn't be part of the bold text, it seems very artificial, like you're trying to add in a meaning that isn't there. This is especially noticeable when some passages have 'asher rendered without "relationally" where it obviously doesn't work, and others you put it in. It doesn't read like an honest rendering of scripture. Perhaps you could leave it in the brackets?


Yada wrote:
I understand your point, but do not completely agree - only partially so. Asher is used so often in association with the work of Yahowsha' and aspects of the Covenant that I rather like the relational aspects of the term. Also, 'asher means "beneficial and fortuitous." But I suppose that I could remove some of this amplification without losing too much even though relationships are the essence of this message. And as you know, the relational associative aspects of 'asher is what led me to Yahowah. It was my trigger, my reason to question my religion and then translations. So I'm rather appreciative of this minor word. Considering all that it means to me and my relationship with God, I'm going to agree with you but cut myself a generous allowance for over emphasizing it.

As for the exceptions, there are a lot of Hebrew words with comprehensive meanings where only a simplified translation works in some places. So 'asher is not unique in this way.


Likewise, when you render "Honour ... the symbolism of your Mother" that reads extremely contrived. It's a bit reminiscent of the adding of words to force a particular meaning that you deride other translations for. It reads just fine as simply "your Mother" (after all, the set-apart Spirit IS our spiritual mother, it's not just symbolism). It's the kind of thing that it seems to me should remain in the brackets, not in the bold text.

Yada wrote:
Okay. So long as the reader knows what Mother and Father Yah is addressing, I'll remove the "Heavenly" and "Spiritual" before them in my commentary. but I'm going to keep them capitalized to be consistent in English. Or, I'll use your bracket suggestion.

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Is there a difference between writing "Mattanyah" and "Matityahu"? I am not sure if I remember you using the second one anywhere, but I've certainly seen it before ...

Yada wrote:
There are a number of names like this that I'm not consistent in the transliteration, but many are because it is written different ways. There are many names like Yasha'yah and Yasha'yahuw which appear both ways. As for Mattanyah and Matityahu, Strongs offers both but personally, I think that the most correct transliteration of both names would be Matanyah, Matanyahuw, Mathathyah, and Mathathyahuw. Both matan and mathath mean "gift." This is a strange one in that I don't know if the Disciple was given the matan derivative or the mathath, which is why I've followed the convention of using two tt's and one n. I'm using a compromised blend as a result of not knowing for sure.

While Matanyah is the most common form in Scripture, I've seen more people use Matityahu when referencing the Disciple, but never with an explanation.
Mattanyah – Yah’s Gift (16x / S4983 / matan / Mattaniah / Matthew)
Mathithyahuw – Yah’s Gift (8x / S4993 / mathath / Mattithiah (RC’s Matthew))




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After reading through it, I still don't understand why you say "Yahowsha' didn't die for our sins"? I mean, he sort of did, didn't he? He was executed so he could endure separation to pay the penalty for our sin, corresponding to Unleavened Bread?

Yada wrote:
Yahowsha', as the diminished manifestation of Yahowah, could not and did not die. Death isn't the penalty for sin. Yahowsha's body, and only His physical body, not His nepesh - soul - consciousness - life died as the Passover Lamb. Yahowsha's nepesh - soul - consciousness - life went on to fulfill Matsah, paying the penalty for sin. And His nepesh - soul - consciousness - life was reunited with Yahowah's Spirit on FirstFruits. So His nepesh - soul - consciousness - life was separated and then reunited, but never dead.

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Oh, and in one place you say "There are hundreds of thousands of websites, articles, blogs, and opinion pieces devoted to ridiculing me for being myopic and focusing on a literal rendering of Yahowah’s Word while having the audacity to expose and criticize the religions God’s testimony impugns."

Yada wrote:
There are hundreds of thousands of "websites, articles, blogs, and opinion pieces devoted to ridiculing me" regarding the totality of my life in business and then in writing Prophet of Doom. There are some, but relatively few, who are "ridiculing me for being myopic and focusing on a literal rendering of Yahowah’s Word." But if you were to include ridiculing Islam along with exposing Christianity and Judaism, then the number of sites and articles criticizing me are bountiful - perhaps in the hundreds of thousands. I have a hundred million dollar bounty on my head so I've offended a lot of religious people - especially Muslims. So perhaps this should be rewritten to be more clear.


I was wondering ... well, I think to really judge the reliability of someone you have to read/listen to criticism of them. And I think it likely that if I follow your method of analysing the scriptures I'll probably not find much wrong with your conclusions. But it still bugs me that no-one else has made them. I mean, surely there are SOME other people who study the Towrah with an open mind, not taking any religious assumptions? And I cannot be sure this is the right way to do it unless I can see and evaluate someone arguing against it. But I haven't found anyone, except Muslims who complain about Prophet of Doom. Your only critics that I have been able to find are those who have read through Yada Yahweh and agree in general, but might disagree on a specific detail. For example I think there are some who think you're being too harsh to Paul and that only Galatians is out of place. So far, I kind of see your point - the other epistles also demean the Towrah, so even if they are of a higher quality, they're still wrong.


Yada wrote:
If you find such a person or place let me know. I haven't found one either. But that does not bother me. Even if one existed, I would not be affirmed by it nor discredited. We aren't called to trust people, but to trust Yah. My focus is on correctly translating His Word and then seeking to understand the message He is conveying so that I can share how it all fits into Yah's Covenant.

And yes, most of the criticisms are against PoD, albeit not one by anyone who actually read the book.

I've not seen any site which criticizes YY or the ITG based upon the content of either. Those who are opposed to them on religious grounds cite Paul to the Church to label me a heretic. Many condemn me for not accepting what others accept, like "Jesus, Christ, cross, trinity, sunday, lord, christianity, etc.

As for the argument against Questioning Paul, the person who made it, and those who he has influenced, take the position that Paul did not write his first letter - the letter that serves as the basis of Pauline Doctrine. The person who made the argument came to know Yah through Yada Yah, and he helped refine some of the QP translations. But ego got in his way and he went off in a strange tangent. When i wouldn't acknowledge what I considered an irrelevant and baseless argument, he chose to become a foe. So I continue to ignore him and those whom he has influenced.

That said, I've not yet seen anything from anyone who has read QP from beginning to end who does not concur with its findings. Also, the sites, blogs, and articles which are critical are almost exclusively ad hominem or straw man.

Lastly, I'd encourage you to view everything I've shared with great skepticism. I'm prone to make mistakes. I'd love to be corrected if I've erred. And there is only one way to accomplish this: translate the Towrah, Prophets, and Psalms yourself and then contemplate what Yahowah is teaching us. If you find something different, share it with me.


I know it may be too much to ask, but are you aware of any rebuttal of your work that is reasonable that I could have a look at?

Yada wrote:
No, not of the ITG, YY, QP, or PoD. If such a thing exists, I've not seen it or heard of it. The closest is the rebuttal of Questioning Paul, but even if the argument were accepted that Paul didn't write Galatians, since Paul makes the same arguments in other letters that position has no merit. And if my translations are flawed of the Greek, I include three others throughout and they are all equally condemning.

So if you are looking to validate or invalidate the ITG, QP, or YY, the only way to do so would be to acquire the tools and commence the study. And if you choose to do so, I'll promise that your efforts will be rewarded.


And continuing this theme, I have attached a short book by a "New Testament" scholar about mistakes people make when analysing the scriptures. I can just feel that if he were shown your work he would say you're committing the word study fallacies - of looking too deeply into the meaning of words, of inferring meaning that isn't actually there from root words or from similar words, etc. I ... my opinion on it is that it's possible that you've made a mistake, but the picture you reveal is so much more logical than anything else, I tend to lean towards seeing your methods as reasonable. After all, this scholar would necessarily claim that Yahowah made a plan for Yisra'el and then threw it away and replaced it with "salvation through grace by faith" ... nevertheless, is there some way you would respond to this? Are you really certain you have the right idea, and your methods are sound? That you are not missing the message that the words actually make, that you are not forcing your own ideas upon them by looking for connotations where none are actually implied?

Yada wrote:
The verification that my source is sound (Yahowah and His Towrah, Prophets, and Psalms) and that my observational methods are sound (consistent with Yahowah's instructions) is found in the result. It is logical, reasonable, rational because I've done what Yahowah asked us to do with regard to His testimony. It is His Word comprised of His words. I am focused upon them and committed to knowing and understanding them. There is nothing more you or I can do.

Yahowah revealed Himself through these words and only these words. Out we not focus upon them and consider their meaning if we want to know and understand God?

The religious argument isn't actually against me - it is against God. The religious scholar doesn't like what Yahowah and Yahowsha' said, preferring Paul instead.


And speaking of which, are there things you and Ken Power disagree on?

Yada wrote:
Paul and Yah's terms vs. Christian terms.

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Moving on, (sorry, this wall of text is even larger than my last one!), you say that you have long recognised that those who hold high office (incl. religious) recognise that they are lying. Is that really true? I really get the impression that many of them actually think they are right!!

Yada wrote:
I've met thousands of such people and I've found that they know. So there may be some true "believers,' but from my experience they are few and far between. They come across as believer because if they didn't no one would believe them. But that is not to say that the average fool isn't actually fooled.



You give one example of an anonymous preacher that you say agreed with you but said he couldn't say it or he would lose his followers. Which elements of what you say here was this? As in was this recent or before you discarded Paul? Because if it was before, I have a suspicion he wouldn't agree with you anymore, and then you'd be being dishonest ...

Yada wrote:
Jerry Falwell. I presented him with the initial findings of YY - a written portrait of the differences between Yah's Word and Christianity. It was very comprehensive covering the proper names, titles, miqra'ey, covenant, trinity, towrah, etc. It was long before I wrote QP, but other than listing Paul as a false prophet, the presentation would not have been any different. Jerry knew, as do most all Christian leaders, that Paul condemns the Towrah. They know that Paul contradicts Yahowah and Yahowsha'. But that does not change the truth about what Yahowah said. And it is what Yahowah said that condemns Christianity.

When I was writing QP and came to Paul's presentation of two covenants, with the Torah's covenant enslaving, I searched for weeks trying to find a rational explanation of this. And all I found is religious scholars justifying Paul's hatred of the Torah.


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Aah, this occurs to me. You mentioned several mixups with letters, something to do with the "Teth" I think and also the missing letter "Gah" But if the Hebrew alphabet was created by God to convey his message, and this letter was there, then why isn't it in the inspired acrostic (Psalm 119)? That is, if Yahowah basically authored an ACROSTIC, surely He would use the letters he wants us to know?

Yada wrote:
The Hebrew alphabet has gone though a score of changes over the past 4000 years. As a result, when you look closely, you will find issues regarding the Shin/Sin/Shemech, the potential for a second G, and for the three Ts originally being two. And my only point was that when looking for root meanings of words one has to consider letters which may have once been one. And the more you examine the idea that two of the three t's were once one, the more you find common ground in the vocabulary. Defining Towrah with words beginning with both Ts is a great example.

The letters I used to separate the groups of 8 verses in the 119th Psalm aren't actually in the text, which is why they were not in the bold. But since there was evidence for 22 stanzas, each with an emphasis on one of the 22 letters, in the alphabetic order, I chose to comment on what I thought was being conveyed thereby. It was too much of a coincidence to pass.


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You make a big deal of how the Towrah is in no way a "law", but what about the parts that are actually basically civil laws? Like the laws about stoning to death for murder etc.? I mean those aren't *just* guidelines for us to "observe" and "study", those are laws on which a society could be built ...

Yada wrote:
It is a statement of fact to say that Towrah does not mean "Law." And it is a statement of fact to say that there is no Hebrew word for "obey." Further, Yahowah consistently tells us what is important for us to observe and understand in his Towrah - and none of those things are even remotely law.

Since Yah has provided the proper perspective on how to benefit from His Towrah, I interpret His instructions accordingly. Ignoring or rejecting His Covenant offer in His Towrah is a death sentence.

You and I are not being called to establish a just society. We don't live in Yisra'el and we are not Lowy. There were and are valid explanations for every instruction. But understanding the reasons for stoning aren't useful with regard to your execution of the direction because neither you nor I are authorized to do so. We can only benefit from the instruction when we come to understand why it was offered.


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This caught my eye. I'm pretty sure the infinity symbol does not come from an "8". The glyph for the 8 may have some origin in Hebrew, but not the infinity symbol. You mention this on page 860 in the document that you sent me). It is just plain dishonest. Or do you know something I don't?

Yada wrote:
The Hebrew 8 symbol is 4000 years old. It looks just like today's 8. Yahowah associates 8 with infinity via Sukah. And an 8 on its side is the symbol for infinity. If that is plain dishonest, we define the world differently.


Related: is the statue of Liberty actually Athena? A quick Google search (Wikipedia, of course) tells me it's a statue of Libertas, a Roman goddess (and NOT the counterpart of Athena, that one is Minerva).

Yada wrote:
I'm not motivated to debate the long legacy and interrelationship with goddesses' names. But this I will say, last week in the LA Times there was an ad for Turkey showing a 2000 + year old depiction of the Greek goddess that looks so similar to the SofL the ad invited people to view the original.

I'm willing to invest the time to help you better understand what Yahowah is offering. And I'm willing to answer questions that will lead you in that direction.

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And a last one that occurs to me though it's not on my list is the word 'ebed. You say that it means coworker to justify why various prophets call themselves Yahowah's 'ebed, but in the Towrah, isn't 'ebed actually used to refer to servants such as those who had to be freed every sabbath year? Or am I getting something wrong again and should go and study it myself?

Yada wrote:
'Ebed means servants, coworkers, and associates. It can even mean slave. With words with related meanings, choosing the most appropriate fit for the context is part of the art of translating.

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All right, I think those are the main questions that occurred to me while reading it.
I hope you can answer them.

I also have a list (not too long) of obvious spelling errors that I found. I ... am not the most tactful of people, so if my criticism annoys you don't worry, I'll keep it to myself. But if you are interested, I'll send it to you.

Yada wrote:
I've had ten people proofread the document and each finds errors the others have missed. So I constantly encourage copy editors to help correct the document. Therefore I'd appreciate your input. I'll make every correction you have found.


Finally, I am now interested, I suppose, in the missing chapters of ITG (still in progress?) or the revised chapters of Yada Yah. If you would send them I'd love to read them now.
I hope I am not taking up too much of your time.
Thank you for your work though!

DB.

Yada wrote:
The first three volumes of Yada Yah are posted on Scribd.com. If you search the Scribd site for Yada Yah you will find the PDFs. I'm currently editing volume four of YY. After I complete the YY edits and get the new ITG and YY sites online, I'll post everything there. Then I'll compose the two missing chapters of the ITG. This all takes a great deal of time. It is fun work, but not fast.

Yada

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Koos wrote:
Yada,
We are still enjoying ITG. It is slow but rewarding reading. The Ruach Kodesh continues to change us while reading, without us knowing it. The wind blows where it wills though we can not see it.

Yada wrote:
So long as we remain observant, we will continue to learn. The ITG is an enlightening and growing experience because it focuses on translating and understanding Yahowah's Word, and most especially the seven topics which are most important for us to know


Thank you so much for the updated version of “Qara” – An invitation to Meet. Many “strangers” have been starting to read these papers and some have even requested printouts for their loved ones. I have it printed at the local University at student’s prices, ridiculous. From Qara till Bikkirum costs about R60.00 (sixty rand) – ridiculous price for a whole book!! Even relative poor people, if they want it, and if they don’t have access to the internet, is provided for. I assure you I don’t ask a cent, only the nett cost of the printing and it is only printed when somebody asks for a copy.

Yada wrote:
I hope to have all of the ITG and the first four volumes of YY posted on the YadaYah.com and IntroToGod.org sites within a couple of weeks. Currently you will find PDFs of the latest versions at www.scribd.com under An Introduction to God and Yada Yah.

I have received many letters from people who have come to know Yah through your outreach, Koos, so I am appreciative of your efforts. One of these days we'll print short runs of these books, making them a bit cheaper. While most people read them on their Kindles and I Pads, or online, that isn't an option for a person without the means to buy and use these devices. So thank you.


But that’s not what I want to right you about. I have recently been wondering about something which I used to call stupid, looney! I have started reading many versions on this topic, filed it away as lunacy until I have read this particular book. Now I don’t think it is lunacy anymore.

A question formed in my mind. “How is it that we base the Scriptural month on the renewal of the moon (chodesh) and especially Aviv, the new year, on the first sighting of the sliver of the renewed moon and the Aviv barley? From there we work to 14th Aviv (Pascha), 15th Aviv (Matsah) 16 Aviv (Bikurim), etc. and then even the counting of the omer. These dates are Scriptural dates, connected to the sighting of the chodesh moon.


Yada wrote:
Why is the connection between barley being 'abyb and the closest renewal of of the moon initiating a new year of concern to you? It is based upon the Towrah's instructions. The instructions are simple and clear, albeit not precise. That is because there is no mention of "sighting" in connection with the moon's renewal. So, since we cannot discriminate between calculating and observing, I have concluded that we should use which ever method achieves the most consistently reliable results. But I won't argue one method over the other unless a person becomes religious in the advancement of one over the other.

This is because determining the exact timing of the Miqra'ey is vastly less important than understanding what they represent and responding to the invitation. Those who focus on the timing, almost never focus on their purpose. Yah does not provide us with sufficient information to be precise on the timing and yet provides overwhelming information on their purpose, so this ought to prioritize our search for answers.


However as soon as these most important dates in human history becomes present “history” as the Feast of Matsah passes, we revert to the pagan calendars to determine and celebrate our 7th day weekly shabbat? There is no connection whatsoever between the pagan 7th day Saturn Saturday and the sighting of the chodesh moon at the start of the renewed month!!

Yada wrote:
Koos, I was concerned that this is where you were going with this. I receive scores of emails each year from people who have come to believe the proponents of the Shabat being the seventh day of each new month. Most if not all, however, are influenced by sites or books which are vastly more concerned over the timing of these days as opposed to their meaning. While your author may be promoting a different day, say Sunday over Saturday, most of those who are fixated on timing tend to embrace the lunar approach.

I've investigated such claims and have not found any merit in them. And the smartest individual associated with supporting the Yada Yah mission has not only done a comprehensive investigation, he has produced two programs for Yada Yahweh Radio on the subject which present his findings. I would encourage you to listen to them if you haven't already. But, so long as you focus on the meaning and purpose of the Shabat and the Miqra'ey, I don't much care what method you or anyone uses to determine the timing of their participation. If, for example, you are convinced that the actual Shabat is a Saturday/Sunday, not a Friday/Saturday, then I have no issue with that other than it does not jive with the eyewitness accounts of Yahowsha's example and it goes against the Christian justification for changing the day.

As for me, I'm convinced that not only isn't there a Towrah basis for the lunar Shabat position, it does not make any sense to me. If the lunar Shabat were the case, Matsah wouldn't be a Shabat, nor would Taruwah, nor the first and last days of Sukah. And with the monthly Shabat, you have one or two uncounted days each month.

This supposed problem of going from Yah's calendar to man's isn't a valid argument. While there is no evidence to suggest that the seventh day of the week has changed historically, so long as you observe the Shabat every seventh day, you'd be following Yah's instructions. But I am unaware of any evidence which suggests that the seventh day on our current calendars isn't in sync with the seventh day of historical calendars. In fact, when I examined the historical evidence for Yahowsha's fulfillment of Pesach, Matsah, and Bikuwrym, I found confirmation of the historicity of the Shabat just as the seventh day exists currently.

Personally I am convinced that the connection between the special Shabat and Shabatown of the Miqra'ey and the Shabat that are observed every seventh day of the week lies in understanding what the Shabat represents relative to Yah's plan of salvation. God wants us to make this connection.

About a month ago, I devoted the first half of a Yada Yahweh Radio program to this topic, sharing my conclusions, and the reasons for them. While i openly admit that I might be wrong, the evidence in favor of weeks recalibrating with every new moon is seems weak, and the evidence otherwise seems strong. But so long as you are more focused on the purpose of the Shabat and Miqra'ey than on timing, and you are responding to Yah's instructions relative to the Covenant and our salvation, then the when is less important than why.

The Scriptural months are being determined by a lunar reckoning BUT the 7th day Shabbat is printed out on the pope’s pagan calendar as the 7th day Saturday (Saturn). Something doesn’t gell.

Yada wrote:
This is a very weak argument, one which has no basis in Scripture. The seventh day isn't set by the Pope. It hasn't changed since several hundreds of years before there even was a pope, invalidating the argument

The Towrah teaches that the first month is set by the renewal of the moon closest to barley being abyb. The Towrah teaches that the Shabat is the seventh day of the week. The only association with either to the current calendar is that if we don't make the conversion, virtually no one would know what days we were talking about. If I were to say that the 14th of 'Abyb occurred on April 5th this year, I'm using Yah's calendar to determine the date and man's calendar to communicate it in a way someone will understand.

Koos, Since Yahowah does not provide a means to know for certain how to determine the beginning of a new month, a lunar Shabat adds greater uncertainty. Moreover, it's important that you consider why Yahowah never bothered to explain the criterion of determining the beginning of a month. This known, if your author's argument is different, if he is advocating for Saturday/Sunday over Friday/Saturday, then my issue would be how his conclusions differ from Yahowsha's example..


Yada I attach this book, it’s about 200 pages, please do not skim read. This might effect your thinking in the future as well. You will appreciate the presentation of his historical facts, his research, etc.
He is not as dogmatic as I would have liked him to be. For example, he writes the following:
“There are no perfect answers to the mystery of the Sabbath we will explore in this book. There are reasons which can be used to support either conclusion. After weighing the evidence and arguments on both sides though, I am convinced that the evidence is clear and convincing as to the lunar basis of YHWH’s original Shabbat. I can not however say that such is beyond a reasonable doubt”. He then goes on toe explain the different standards from law school how to evaluate evidence.

Yada wrote:
I'm only interested Koos if the author knows Yahowah, knows His Towrah, knows and addresses the purpose of the Shabat and Miqra'ey, and if he uses Scripture as the sole basis of his argument. If his only contribution is Roman and Church history and law school, then I'll pass.

That said, he is right in telling you that it is impossible to be certain. And that is my point. Since one cannot be certain based upon the information Yahowah has given regarding the timing, and you can be certain regarding the purpose, we ought to observe that which is trustworthy and dependable and spend less time speculating.


I myself feel that the evidence and arguments he presents are “more than clear and convincing”, are even beyond reasonable doubt, should one apply a standard used in criminal court.

Yada wrote:
That is your choice, but that isn't the proper forum nor standard.


I wish I could copy and paste you specific excerpts in order to make you curious enough to properly read this book. For instance “One striking difference between the Roman system and our own, and not a commonly known fact, is that the first day of their weekly order was originally Saturday, as our chart demonstrates, due to the predominant worship of that God”.

Yada wrote:
Sorry, but not only were there many Roman systems, when accounting systems changed, the days of the week did not change. And yes, pagans have always worshiped their gods on the first day of the week. So what is the point?

In his introduction, he speaks of commands. I do not see commands in Yahowah's Towrah, only teaching, instruction, guidance, and direction. Mitswah is more accurately rendered 'terms and conditions" especially in association with the Covenant. His opening prayer isn't Scriptural. He renders "shamar - observe" as "keep" as a result, missing everything which is important. He speaks of "Grace," of "beliefs," and of "religious authority."

The author appears to be fixated on timing, not instruction, not purpose, not understanding, but simply the idea of doing, or not doing, something on the appropriate day. So if that appeals to you, then observe the Shabat in accord with his suggestions. So long as you understand why you are doing so, there is no reason to suspect that Yahowah will mind.



For all I know you might be familiar with this book, I hope not.

Yada wrote:
I'll read as much of this as I can endure, which won't be much if he keeps mistranslating Yahowah's Word, and continues to use history, not the Towrah to prove his point. But my mind is already made up on this. I see the meaning and purpose of the Shabat and Miqra'ey as essential and the timing as so unessential that Yahowah deluged us with answers on the former and omitted the basis for determining with any degree of certainty the latter.

Koos, to be completely fair, there is no question that the author means well. And I'm sure that he has done his historical homework. But based upon what I've read, he would have been better served observing the Towrah, translating it accurately and pondering its meaning, than focusing on when to "keep" the Shabat.


As an interesting aside and for background for you to start reading his book, this guy argues convincingly against the apostle Paul in another book of his. He is tolerant of this false apostle in view of the fact that Paul did say some things pro-Torah. (By the way, he also does not regard new testament scriptures as being inspired – they have historical value) You on the other hand made out an argument beyond reasonable doubt that Paul sided against Yahowah and as such is to be completely ignored and thrown out. As we are both passionate about Towrah, the Word of Yah, we agree whole heartedly!!

Be blessed.
Koos

Yada wrote:
This is encouraging. He is right in this regard. But here is the bottom line... unless the timing of the seventh day can be set precisely from the Towrah itself, and pushed forward to today without referencing pagan systems, then based upon Yahowsha's fulfillment in 33, I'm comfortable with the seventh day being the seventh day.

There is perhaps no topic less interesting to me than this one, Koos. I don't see how we can come to know Yahowah better from it or come to understand His Covenant better as a result. And those are the only two things which garner my attention.

That said, feel free to disagree. If you've come to a different conclusion, so long as it isn't in conflict with Yah's teaching, that's perfectly acceptable. Observing the Shabat is a relationship and salvation issue because its purpose and meaning are essential for us to understand Yahowah's nature, purpose, overall timing, and plan. Beyond that, I don't know what else to say.

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koos wrote:
Yada, Haven't had time to respond to your lengthy response. When I do it will be very short and sweet!!

However, talk about errant translations. It seems as if it starts right at the beginning, Gen.1:1.

I don't know whether the various lexicons would be of assistance. But I have now verified this with more than one Hebrew expert. Ber. (Gen.1:1) actually reads "In a beginning ....." and NOT "In the beginning....."

Beresheeth = in a beginning
versus
Baresheet = in the beginning

They rationalize that it is an idiomatic expression and therefore the translation is correct. Yahowah's language, I believe is precise. What do you say?

Sorry I can't write the Hebrew letters in this mail.

I have a fruitful imagination and this makes me think ........ or should I stop??

Be blessed.
Koos


Yada wrote:
Hi Koos,

Sorry for the delayed response. I've been preoccupied trying to edit and correct YY.

In the Hayah chapter of Bare'syth I make this point, revealing that the article ha isn't extant in the text. But we have to be careful with articles, both definite and indefinite, because they seldom translate perfectly from one language to another. For example, there are many times that they appear in the text yet have to be ignored in translations for grammatical reasons. And the oldest manuscript we have of this verse dates to the 11th century CE MT, so it is not especially reliable.

Prepositions and articles are prefixes in Hebrew. Ba, featuring the prefix of the letter Beth, conveys "in" and "with" while ha, featuring the prefix of the letter Hey, conveys "the."

For the sake of understanding, this was not the only beginning. There will be a new beginning just over 1000 years from now when Yah creates a new universe. Also, we individually experience a new beginning with Yahowah via His Covenant. So "In a beginning..." is instructive. But so is "In the beginning..." which addresses the creation of the current universe.

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B wrote:
Yada. From my last e-mail. Here's what i believe started the whole issue between my brother and me. Please Yada, correct me if I need to be corrected. I don't have a problem being wrong. My brother bascically put me up against the wall and asked" Can someone be saved through Jesus?" I replied " According to what YAh says, I so no, you cannot through Jesus"
He then accused me of judging men's souls and I was elevating myself higher than Yah because He will separate the wheat from the tares.
Please Yada, I really need your insight on this. The last thing i want to do is misrepresent Yah and His Word.
Thank you Yada

B


Yada wrote:
B,

There is no "Jesus." That name was created in the 17th century CE. It has no Scriptural basis of any kind. So how can someone be saved by someone they do not even know? Why would someone a person hasn't bothered to get to know want to invite that estranged and misled individual into their home?

Fact is, we aren't even saved by Yahowsha', but instead by Yahowah. That is what the name Yahowsha' means and what the Towrah, Prophets, Psalms, and Yahowsha' all teach. So it is Yahowah who saves. Period.

Further, salvation isn't the purpose or point of Scripture. Yahowah has no interest in saving someone who doesn't even know who He is, what He is like, what He has said, taught, and offered. This is typical of Christians. They not only don't know Yahowsha', they are completely clueless as to what He said and did. They don't understand that He is a manifestation of the Towrah, and that apart from the Towrah nothing He said or did has any value. For example, Christians claim to be "followers of Jesus," and yet not one is "Towrah observant," rendering their claim completely false.

So since it is safe to say that someone ignorant enough not to know Yahowsha's name, is not going to know the terms and conditions of the Covenant, nor understand their enablement in the Invitations, there isn't one chance in a bazillion that such a person has embraced the terms of this relationship or observed the Meetings. And thus they are not saved. If you don't observe the Miqra'ey and accept the Mitswah, there is no hope.

Your brother's argument is childish. It reveals his complete lack of understanding. It is thoughtless and irrational. At best it is a mix of straw man (changing the nature of the discussion by creating a false argument unrelated to the evidence) and ad hominem (attacking you personally even though you are irrelevant what Yahowah revealed).

There is no way to know Yahowah apart from exercising good judgment. We are asked to observe His towrah teaching, which is to closely examine and carefully consider His instructions, thinking about what we have come to know so that we understand. And based upon this knowledge and understanding we can know for certain what one must come to accept, act upon, trust, and rely to become part of Yahowah's Covenant family or be excluded from it. And to be excluded is to die. So if a person has not responded appropriately to the five terms and conditions of the Covenant, they are not saved. Not one Christian in a million even knows what these are, much less embraces them.

Stating Yah's position on the Covenant and on reconciliation doesn't make you the judge of individual souls, but instead a witness to the lone source of information which enables all of us to know the fate of human souls. Yahowah made this all very clear, telling us what would cause souls to be adopted, extinguished, or separated. You and I can know for certain if we are adopted or not, and based upon what they claim, whether someone else is saved or not. That does not make you or I their judge, but simply informed and rational.

By sharing Yah's testimony you were associating yourself with it, embracing it, accepting it, trusting it. To suggest that doing so places you above Yahowah is utterly senseless. The problem here is that your brother doesn't know or understand what Yahowah revealed, so when your witness regarding Yah's Word is in conflict with his religion, he resorts to the fallacies of straw man and ad hominem, thereby creating a false foe and avoiding the actual evidence. It is pathetic.

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C wrote:
Hi Yada

Hope you are well?

Koos send me this book, maybe he has shared it with you, if so, just ignore this one.

I would like to have your point of view once you have worked through it. I have just started on it.



Shalowm
C


Yada wrote:
C,

I struggle with this guy's terminology. I completely disagree with "you shall keep," especially when he says that it "is not a request or a suggestion, but a directive, a command." That isn't true, and it is especially misleading, in that it conveys the opposite of what is true. So since his terminology and attitude are so errant, it's hard to take his research seriously.

Knowledge gleaned from observing the Towrah teaching of Yahowah ought to lead to understanding by way of thoughtful consideration. We should then respond to what Yah has revealed and requested. But the choice is ours. Yah's instructions are requests offered under the auspices of freewill. That is the essence of the Covenant. It is why so many Hebrew verbs were scribe using volitional forms and moods.

A few months ago Koos sent me this guy's material relative to the Shabat and I was not impressed with his evidence or his reasoning. There was too much man and too little Yahowah in his information and thinking. Moreover, by focusing upon the timing instead of the meaning of the Shabat, his arguments are more distracting than useful.

I am convinced that this author means well, and that his heart is in the right place. But he's not looking to the Towrah for answers. And his perspective on the nature and purpose of the Covenant isn't appropriate. He needs to change his thinking, his perspective, and his attitude toward Yahowah before trying to teach. While we all make mistakes, we don't want our initial mistake to be as out of whack as is his "keeping commands."

If there is a Scriptural point from the Towrah in his book that you'd like me to consider, I'll gladly do so in light of those things we know to be true from the Towrah. But I don't want to pour through his errant translations, historical records, and legal reasoning process unless there is a specific point related to the Towrah that you would like evaluated.

If you read his book, let me know. But if the only question addressed is whether Yah's original seventh day was Thursday-Friday or Saturday-Sunday when moved to our calendar, I'm not interested. Moreover, in 33 Yahowsha' observed the Shabat on what we now call Friday-Saturday, and that is good enough for me.

The instruction is to observe (examine and consider) the seventh day. It isn't to establish the seventh day.

Yada

PS I found the letter from Koos on this fellow's book and my response. Since you mentioned Koos (whom I love and respect) I've pasted it below...

Yada

Koos wrote:
Yada,

We are still enjoying ITG. It is slow but rewarding reading. The Ruach Kodesh continues to change us while reading, without us knowing it. The wind blows where it wills though we can not see it.

Yada wrote:
So long as we remain observant, we will continue to learn. The ITG is an enlightening and growing experience because it focuses on translating and understanding Yahowah's Word, and most especially the seven topics which are most important for us to know.


Thank you so much for the updated version of “Qara” – An invitation to Meet. Many “strangers” have been starting to read these papers and some have even requested printouts for their loved ones. I have it printed at the local University at student’s prices, ridiculous. From Qara till Bikkirum costs about R60.00 (sixty rand) – ridiculous price for a whole book!! Even relative poor people, if they want it, and if they don’t have access to the internet, is provided for. I assure you I don’t ask a cent, only the nett cost of the printing and it is only printed when somebody asks for a copy.

Yada wrote:
I hope to have all of the ITG and the first four volumes of YY posted on the YadaYah.com and IntroToGod.org sites within a couple of weeks. Currently you will find PDFs of the latest versions at www.scribd.com under An Introduction to God and Yada Yah.

I have received many letters from people who have come to know Yah through your outreach, Koos, so I am appreciative of your efforts. One of these days we'll print short runs of these books, making them a bit cheaper. While most people read them on their Kindles and I Pads, or online, that isn't an option for a person without the means to buy and use these devices. So thank you.


But that’s not what I want to right you about. I have recently been wondering about something which I used to call stupid, looney! I have started reading many versions on this topic, filed it away as lunacy until I have read this particular book. Now I don’t think it is lunacy anymore.

A question formed in my mind. “How is it that we base the Scriptural month on the renewal of the moon (chodesh) and especially Aviv, the new year, on the first sighting of the sliver of the renewed moon and the Aviv barley? From there we work to 14th Aviv (Pascha), 15th Aviv (Matsah) 16 Aviv (Bikurim), etc. and then even the counting of the omer. These dates are Scriptural dates, connected to the sighting of the chodesh moon.

Yada wrote:
Why is the connection between barley being 'abyb and the closest renewal of of the moon initiating a new year of concern to you? It is based upon the Towrah's instructions. The instructions are simple and clear, albeit not precise. That is because there is no mention of "sighting" in connection with the moon's renewal. So, since we cannot discriminate between calculating and observing, I have concluded that we should use which ever method achieves the most consistently reliable results. But I won't argue one method over the other unless a person becomes religious in the advancement of one over the other.

This is because determining the exact timing of the Miqra'ey is vastly less important than understanding what they represent and responding to the invitation. Those who focus on the timing, almost never focus on their purpose. Yah does not provide us with sufficient information to be precise on the timing and yet provides overwhelming information on their purpose, so this ought to prioritize our search for answers.



However as soon as these most important dates in human history becomes present “history” as the Feast of Matsah passes, we revert to the pagan calendars to determine and celebrate our 7th day weekly shabbat? There is no connection whatsoever between the pagan 7th day Saturn Saturday and the sighting of the chodesh moon at the start of the renewed month!!

Yada wrote:
Koos, I was concerned that this is where you were going with this. I receive scores of emails each year from people who have come to believe the proponents of the Shabat being the seventh day of each new month. Most if not all, however, are influenced by sites or books which are vastly more concerned over the timing of these days as opposed to their meaning. While your author may be promoting a different day, say Sunday over Saturday, most of those who are fixated on timing tend to embrace the lunar approach.

I've investigated such claims and have not found any merit in them. And the smartest individual associated with supporting the Yada Yah mission has not only done a comprehensive investigation, he has produced two programs for Yada Yahweh Radio on the subject which present his findings. I would encourage you to listen to them if you haven't already. But, so long as you focus on the meaning and purpose of the Shabat and the Miqra'ey, I don't much care what method you or anyone uses to determine the timing of their participation. If, for example, you are convinced that the actual Shabat is a Saturday/Sunday, not a Friday/Saturday, then I have no issue with that other than it does not jive with the eyewitness accounts of Yahowsha's example and it goes against the Christian justification for changing the day.

As for me, I'm convinced that not only isn't there a Towrah basis for the lunar Shabat position, it does not make any sense to me. If the lunar Shabat were the case, Matsah wouldn't be a Shabat, nor would Taruwah, nor the first and last days of Sukah. And with the monthly Shabat, you have one or two uncounted days each month.

This supposed problem of going from Yah's calendar to man's isn't a valid argument. While there is no evidence to suggest that the seventh day of the week has changed historically, so long as you observe the Shabat every seventh day, you'd be following Yah's instructions. But I am unaware of any evidence which suggests that the seventh day on our current calendars isn't in sync with the seventh day of historical calendars. In fact, when I examined the historical evidence for Yahowsha's fulfillment of Pesach, Matsah, and Bikuwrym, I found confirmation of the historicity of the Shabat just as the seventh day exists currently.

Personally I am convinced that the connection between the special Shabat and Shabatown of the Miqra'ey and the Shabat that are observed every seventh day of the week lies in understanding what the Shabat represents relative to Yah's plan of salvation. God wants us to make this connection.

About a month ago, I devoted the first half of a Yada Yahweh Radio program to this topic, sharing my conclusions, and the reasons for them. While i openly admit that I might be wrong, the evidence in favor of weeks recalibrating with every new moon is seems weak, and the evidence otherwise seems strong. But so long as you are more focused on the purpose of the Shabat and Miqra'ey than on timing, and you are responding to Yah's instructions relative to the Covenant and our salvation, then the when is less important than why.



The Scriptural months are being determined by a lunar reckoning BUT the 7th day Shabbat is printed out on the pope’s pagan calendar as the 7th day Saturday (Saturn). Something doesn’t gell.

Yada wrote:
This is a very weak argument, one which has no basis in Scripture. The seventh day isn't set by the Pope. It hasn't changed since several hundreds of years before there even was a pope, invalidating the argument

The Towrah teaches that the first month is set by the renewal of the moon closest to barley being abyb. The Towrah teaches that the Shabat is the seventh day of the week. The only association with either to the current calendar is that if we don't make the conversion, virtually no one would know what days we were talking about. If I were to say that the 14th of 'Abyb occurred on April 5th this year, I'm using Yah's calendar to determine the date and man's calendar to communicate it in a way someone will understand.

Koos, Since Yahowah does not provide a means to know for certain how to determine the beginning of a new month, a lunar Shabat adds greater uncertainty. Moreover, it's important that you consider why Yahowah never bothered to explain the criterion of determining the beginning of a month. This known, if your author's argument is different, if he is advocating for Saturday/Sunday over Friday/Saturday, then my issue would be how his conclusions differ from Yahowsha's example..



Yada I attach this book, it’s about 200 pages, please do not skim read. This might effect your thinking in the future as well. You will appreciate the presentation of his historical facts, his research, etc.
He is not as dogmatic as I would have liked him to be. For example, he writes the following:
“There are no perfect answers to the mystery of the Sabbath we will explore in this book. There are reasons which can be used to support either conclusion. After weighing the evidence and arguments on both sides though, I am convinced that the evidence is clear and convincing as to the lunar basis of YHWH’s original Shabbat. I can not however say that such is beyond a reasonable doubt”. He then goes on toe explain the different standards from law school how to evaluate evidence.

Yada wrote:
I'm only interested Koos if the author knows Yahowah, knows His Towrah, knows and addresses the purpose of the Shabat and Miqra'ey, and if he uses Scripture as the sole basis of his argument. If his only contribution is Roman and Church history and law school, then I'll pass.

That said, he is right in telling you that it is impossible to be certain. And that is my point. Since one cannot be certain based upon the information Yahowah has given regarding the timing, and you can be certain regarding the purpose, we ought to observe that which is trustworthy and dependable and spend less time speculating.


I myself feel that the evidence and arguments he presents are “more than clear and convincing”, are even beyond reasonable doubt, should one apply a standard used in criminal court.

Yada wrote:
That is your choice, but that isn't the proper forum nor standard.


I wish I could copy and paste you specific excerpts in order to make you curious enough to properly read this book. For instance “One striking difference between the Roman system and our own, and not a commonly known fact, is that the first day of their weekly order was originally Saturday, as our chart demonstrates, due to the predominant worship of that God”.

Yada wrote:
Sorry, but not only were there many Roman systems, when accounting systems changed, the days of the week did not change. And yes, pagans have always worshiped their gods on the first day of the week. So what is the point?

In his introduction, he speaks of commands. I do not see commands in Yahowah's Towrah, only teaching, instruction, guidance, and direction. Mitswah is more accurately rendered 'terms and conditions" especially in association with the Covenant. His opening prayer isn't Scriptural. He renders "shamar - observe" as "keep" as a result, missing everything which is important. He speaks of "Grace," of "beliefs," and of "religious authority."

The author appears to be fixated on timing, not instruction, not purpose, not understanding, but simply the idea of doing, or not doing, something on the appropriate day. So if that appeals to you, then observe the Shabat in accord with his suggestions. So long as you understand why you are doing so, there is no reason to suspect that Yahowah will mind.


For all I know you might be familiar with this book, I hope not.

Yada wrote:
I'll read as much of this as I can endure, which won't be much if he keeps mistranslating Yahowah's Word, and continues to use history, not the Towrah to prove his point. But my mind is already made up on this. I see the meaning and purpose of the Shabat and Miqra'ey as essential and the timing as so unessential that Yahowah deluged us with answers on the former and omitted the basis for determining with any degree of certainty the latter.

Koos, to be completely fair, there is no question that the author means well. And I'm sure that he has done his historical homework. But based upon what I've read, he would have been better served observing the Towrah, translating it accurately and pondering its meaning, than focusing on when to "keep" the Shabat.


As an interesting aside and for background for you to start reading his book, this guy argues convincingly against the apostle Paul in another book of his. He is tolerant of this false apostle in view of the fact that Paul did say some things pro-Torah. (By the way, he also does not regard new testament scriptures as being inspired – they have historical value) You on the other hand made out an argument beyond reasonable doubt that Paul sided against Yahowah and as such is to be completely ignored and thrown out. As we are both passionate about Towrah, the Word of Yah, we agree whole heartedly!!
Be blessed.
Koos

Yada wrote:
This is encouraging. He is right in this regard. But here is the bottom line... unless the timing of the seventh day can be set precisely from the Towrah itself, and pushed forward to today without referencing pagan systems, then based upon Yahowsha's fulfillment in 33, I'm comfortable with the seventh day being the seventh day.

There is perhaps no topic less interesting to me than this one, Koos. I don't see how we can come to know Yahowah better from it or come to understand His Covenant better as a result. And those are the only two things which garner my attention.

That said, feel free to disagree. If you've come to a different conclusion, so long as it isn't in conflict with Yah's teaching, that's perfectly acceptable. Observing the Shabat is a relationship and salvation issue because its purpose and meaning are essential for us to understand Yahowah's nature, purpose, overall timing, and plan. Beyond that, I don't know what else to say.

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RD wrote:
Hi Yada

I think you may’ve misunderstood what I was asking: I wasn’t asking whether there were homo sapiens outside of the garden, what I meant to ask was exactly where the words “daughters of men roamed the earth” appear in Scripture. You have specifically stated that the phrase “daughters of men roamed the earth” appears twice in Scripture – I’m asking where it says this, because I have personally been unable to find it. Is it possible you could provide the two references for this phrase, that is, Chapter and verse number? Whilst I understand that there were neither chapters nor verse numbers in the original, they are however helpful for a quick reference for most people.

RD


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RD,

Sorry for the misunderstanding. The quick answer is Genesis 6:1-2. I cover this topic in the Noah chapter of Yada Yah.
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#371 Posted : Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:35:57 AM(UTC)
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B wrote:
hi Yada,

I have a Pesach-related question, before I send in my question about Revelation. Maybe this is more of an observation then a question, but I like to learn and get feedback, as I am planning on sharing Yah's Towrah teaching and instructions.


Abraham walked to God and came to trust and rely, making firm the covenant relationship with Yahowah as his Father. And as a model for Pesach, he was engaged in the covenant relationship and knew Yah would provide the sacrifice (Lamb) even though he was will willing to offer Isaac.

Question: in the family covenant relationship that Yahowah is seeking, does the following observation (about the Disciples, Pesach, Matsah, Bikurym, and 7 Sevens go toward showing that in the family covenant relationship) go to show that Yahowah really is doing the work of renewal, cleansing, and adoption leading to Yah's eternal Beyrith family covenant relationship?

The Disciples walked with Yahowsha when called, and Yah worked miracles through them. As I understand so far, walking along the Way includes carefully observing so as to understand, leading to an appropriate response, and being able to capitalize on Yah's offer at Pesach, Matsah, Bikurym, 7 Sevens, and continuing....

The Disciples just after celebrating Pesach fell asleep when Yahowsha asked them to stay alert. Daytime of Pesach, Shimown denied knowing Yahowsha 3x. Then the Disciples went into hiding (were "scattered"), except for Yahuchana who stood with the women at the Upright Pole. The rest were scattered, even though Yahowsha had explained to them He would be lifted up.

Bikurym (maybe they show a glimmer of understanding) the tomb is empty, then Yahowsha appears to them. As Matsah is celebrated for 7 / 8 days, Yahowsha appears a second time to the Disciples at 8 days (Yahuchanan 20:26). Maybe that's significant? Was Yahowsha celebrating Bikurym during those days for them, and for us? And during the remaining days Yahowsha further taught them. They listened and waited as instructed, and at 7 Sevens Yahowah empowered them to grow and share....

So it seems that they really didn't understand so as to capitalize, yet they listened, walked with Yahowsha (sort of for most of them, Yahuchanan seems to have listened the most since he was at the Upright Pole), and yet Yah still shows they benefited from Pesach, Matsah, and Bikurym, with further confirmation on 7 Sevens. The question is lengthy, and after thinking about if for 4 days, I just added the question in the previous paragraph, was Yahowsha celebrating Matsah for us?

P.S. whenever you need a break, and slack, that's understandable! And that gives listeners a chance to go over what we've learned and continue to get to know Yah!

Thank you,

B


Yada wrote:
B,

I understand the pretext for your question, but I'm not sure I understand your question. As for the pretext, your observations are consistent with what I recently observed with Abram. He initially listened to Yah and was willing to engage per Yah's requests, but he only understood a tiny fraction of what God was offering, not unlike the Disciples. While they know more today than we do, at the time these conversations were recorded, they knew less than we currently do.

And yet they would benefit from Yah's offer and work. They would grow by listening to Him, by observing, thinking, engaging, and trusting. So I see this as affirmation that we are on a similar path, the right path, an acceptable way to approach Yah. Our understanding is flawed and incomplete, and yet we are still beneficiaries of these marvelous Covenant promises. And just like Abram and Yahowchanan, the more we focus upon and listen to what Yah has revealed, the more we learn and grow.

This confirms many things. God does all of the work required for us to be with Him. Our only contribution is to be observant and responsive. God does not expect much from us initially. A little understanding will go a long way. And life with God is all about learning and growing, understanding more today than we knew yesterday. This is consistent with children benefiting from their parent's guidance.

One last thought. Abram and Yahowchanan had an advantage over us in that they lived and walked in the very presence of Yah. And yet we have an advantage over them in that we can study Yah's Towrah from the perspective their experiences provide. And that raises the question: is God more readily known and is His offer more easily understood in the Word or in the flesh? It is a question Yahowsha' seems to have answered several times, once bluntly. It is why I think it is easier for us to understand than it was for them.

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#372 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:47:42 AM(UTC)
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JM wrote:
Yada, we are working on a video that had a sinner's prayer at the end. Do you have a short summary of a better 'sinner's prayer' with links to longer info?

Pharaoh’s Chariots Litter Sea Floor

It was among the most lop-sided military victories in history. 600 of Pharaoh’s elite charioteers, destroyed by the hand of God, without the loss of one fleeing Israelite. You can read the Biblical account in Exodus, Chapter 14. Until now, this was just another episode of the Old Testament, accepted by believers on the basis of faith alone.

Until now…

We’re pleased to report that, once again, science agrees with the truth of the Biblical record. To refresh your memory, a series of 10 devastating plagues had led Pharaoh, the King of Egypt, to finally set free the land’s Hebrew slaves, and cast them out of his kingdom. However, the Bible tells us that Pharaoh, the politician he was, flip-flopped on his promise of peace, sent hundreds of chariots after the refugees on a mission to slaughter them, instead. With their backs against the Red Sea, and Pharaoh’s armies in sight, the children of Israel cried out in despair. Moses commanded them to hold their peace and watch the deliverance of the Lord. Then, miraculously, an east wind divided the waters of the sea, allowing every Israelite to safely cross over into Arabia on dry land. When the Egyptian armies followed close on their heels, Moses obeyed Yahweh God’s order to stretch out his hands over the sea, causing the waters to reunite, destroying every last Egyptian chariot in the raging waters. There were no survivors.

But new visual evidence, collected by underwater cameras, has confirmed the saga, as recounted by the Ruach Ha-Kodesh Spirit through His servant, Moses. We now know precisely where the events transpired in the Gulf of Aqaba. The images are, indeed, compelling…with the wreckage of hundreds of coral-encrusted chariots littering the sea floor, all located precisely where the Bible had predicted they would be found.

Of course, this is merely the LATEST in a long series of archaeological and scientific discoveries that prove the undeniable authenticity of the Bible. (Start video scroll of Noah’s Ark discovery, etc.*) And if all these claims are accurate, then it follows that the Gospel, itself, must also be true. The bottom line is…you can trust the love of Yahweh God for you, and His promise to forgive and save you through the sacrifice and resurrection of His only begotten Son, anointed Savior and Messiah Yeshua. It’s all yours for the asking. Why not do it right now?


(*http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Scientific-Proof-of-Bible.php for list and do a slow video scroll of the items listed there while a gospel presentation is made. The music can play for about 40 seconds to the end of the video, which might end with John 3:16, and a 60 second screen of a sinner’s prayer screen, or a Yada SHORT salvation summary with links to the longer versions on his web site.


Yada wrote:
JM,

There is no "sinner's prayer" for salvation. In fact, there is no reference to prayer anywhere in Yahowah's Towrah Teaching. The religious mindset is to talk to God, a God the religious don't even know. But God's instruction is for us to listen to Him. So the means to salvation is by observing Yahowah's Towrah Teaching, not talking to Him. Therefore, there isn't and cannot be a "sinner's prayer" for salvation. It is the antithesis of what God's wants from us.

The religious mindset is to be saved, but that is not God's priority. There is no independent salvation. Our redemption and reconciliation are byproducts of the Covenant. So the question should be: what must we know, understand, accept, embrace, act upon, trust, and rely to engage in the Covenant. According to Yah, if we do what He asks, we will be saved and a whole lot more...

With His Covenant, Yahowah asks five things of us, and in return He promises five things to us. (To understand why there is a focus on five, look at Yahowah's name in Ancient Hebrew and observe the five hands.) These are:

1) Walk away from Babylon, from corruption, from confusion, from country, from politics, from patriotism, from religion, from one's earthly family.

2) Trust and rely on Yahowah which requires us to know Him and understand what He is offering by observing His Towrah.

3) Walk to Yahowah and become perfect, which is achieved by accepting Yah's 7 Invitations.

4) Observe the Covenant, coming to know and understand its Terms and Benefits so that you can respond appropriately.

5) As parents we are to circumcise our sons, serving as a sign that we are committed to teaching them the Towrah and raising them to become part of Yah's family.

Those who engage with Yahowah in this way receive the following five benefits:

1) Eternal Life (as a result of the promise of Passover),

2) Perfection (and thus vindication and redemption) (as a result of the promise of Unleavened Bread),

3) Adoption into Yah's Covenant Family (as a result of the promise of FirstFruits),

4) Enrichment and Enlightenment (receiving the Towrah and benefiting from its Teaching) (as a result of the promise of Seven Sabbaths),

5) Empowerment (also part of the promise of Seven Sabbaths).

Relative to the Exodus, Yahowah was rescuing His Children because of the Covenant. He was honoring a promise He made to Abraham. And the method He chose to enable the Covenant relationship with them and to bring His children away from religious and political oppression was Passover, Unleavened Bread, FirstFruits, and Seven Sabbaths (when the Towrah was given). This is the story of life, of salvation, of spiritual birth, and of enrichment, enlightenment, and empowerment by way of the first four Invitations. There is a theme here.

That is as short and simple as I can make this: 5 requirements and 5 benefits.

Yada

Responding to the rest of the script...

The book's name is Shemowth - Names, not Exodus. There is no "Old Testament." This story is from the Towrah, which means Guidance and Direction - which is fitting for this account. This story isn't accepted by faith, alone, in fact, just the opposite. Yahowah provided the means to know and He said so, repeating yada' twice before He predicted it in relationship to us knowing that the Covenant's promises are reliable.

Yahowah hates being called "Lord." Don't ever use this in association with Yahowah. "Lord" is Satan's title.

The Yisra'elites were on what is now called Nuweibaa beach on the west shore of the Gulf of Aqaba. It is a small point, but why not be completely accurate.

Moseh never "obeyed" anything. There isn't even a Hebrew word for "obey."

A more accurate transliteration of Set-Apart Spirit is Ruwach Qodesh. And a more accurate transliteration of YHWH is Yahowah rather than Yahweh.

The "sacrifice of the only begotten Son" was not part of this message. This was Yahowah saving Yisra'el Himself via the first 4 Invitations. The only connection to Yahowsha' is that He observed them and followed in His Father's footsteps. Yahowah is our Savior.

The name "Yeshua" is offensive, repulsive, and disgusting. Never, never, use it. The diminished corporeal manifestation of Yahowah is Yahowsha'. It means Yahowah Saves.

Yah's Covenant isn't "for the asking." There are 5 requirements. And you can't ask for salvation.

"Gospel" is a pagan term. And taking "John 3.16" out of context is completely misleading.

Besides that, it's a nice story.

Yada

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#373 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:46:53 AM(UTC)
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R wrote:
Mr Winn (spelling), I listened to you on Dr Deagle's program and was quite frankly blown away at your perspective.
My understanding is you had become financially very successful and for whatever reason you chose to explore
the various religions of the world. I would assume if I read your material I would have a better understanding of
your deductions. Given the fact my mind was introduced to a whole new interpretation of religious beliefs, I have
a plethora of questions.

Are your beliefs and perceptions 'inspired', or a result of intellectual reasoning?

You mention the Bible, but no mention of Eastern religious philosophies and beliefs.
For example, Krishna Murti or Paramahansa Yogananda?

What about reincarnation? I have seen documented past life experiences.
I have personally experienced past lives.

There are those who believe in ET's. Some state god is an Et who created us.

And there is the Satan factor associated with God, is this a myth?

Is not everything a myth, an illusion?

Is the Torah, which you refer to, THE book? And how did the Torah come into
being and by whom? Who wrote the Torah?

Mr. Winn (spelling), I must note your interview was one the most mentally stimulating I
have had the pleasure of listening to in quite a while. Thank you for sharing.....

R


Yada wrote:
Thank you for listening Richard.

The perspective that I provided is not my own. It is Yahowah's. I have no beliefs, preferring to know and understand. My means to both is observation and reason. I have no interest in religion or in philosophy, eastern or western. In fact, I am anti-religious. I discount ET's based upon time and the nature of life. There is an Adversary. There is no reincarnation. Most things are myths, but not everything. Torah means teaching, and the only teacher I view as worthy is Yahowah. He authored the Torah.

Should you be interested in studying my treatise on Yahowah's Towrah, I'll send it to you via a Word attachment. But be forewarned, it is long and complex.

Lastly, in terms of a response to your position, while interesting, as a rule I do not consider personal revelations or personal experiences individuals claim to have encountered because there is no way to validate them and they take my attention away from that which is both verifiable and true. Time is limited, and I have found the greatest treasure in the universe.

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#374 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:55:21 AM(UTC)
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D wrote:
who are the 144,000 in revelation? who are the other sheep spoken of by Yahosha? Is there a relationship between the 144,000 and the lewie and are the beneficiaries of the lewie the other sheep?

We (Eand I ) have benefited greatly from your research and effort may Yah continue to bless you so that we also may be blessed.

D


Yada wrote:
D,

I don't claim any expertise in Revelation past the 7 open letters. But all it says of the 144,000 is that they are sealed, and thus off limits to being harmed by the wind in the 7th chapter - 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes. But then in the 14th chapter, a similar number bear Yahowah's name (ok), they sing a new song that only they could learn (no), they have been redeemed (ok, but not via a new song and this is in conflict with Yahowah's "thousands" and Yahowsha's "few"), they have not been defiled by women (that sounds Pauline), they are virgins (irrelevant and counter to the covenant), they follow the Lamb everywhere (?), they are firstfruits (ok), and they are blameless (ok).

While the 7th chapter isn't extant prior to Constantine, we do have a pre-Constantine text of 14:1-5. In it 144 is not written out, but is instead scribed in code, with a letter representing 100, one representing 40, and a third representing 4 prior to the Greek word for thousands. Make of that what you will.

Only 12,000 of the 144,000 are Lowy/Levites according to the 7th chapter. Yahowsha' isn't the one providing this information in the 7th chapter, but "a messenger ascending from the rising of the sun having the seal of the living God." And in the 14th chapter, once again it isn't Yahowsha' speaking, but simply Yahowchanan reporting what he heard others saying. Moreover, the oldest manuscripts read, "as if it were a new song." But that does not resolve the references to "that only they could learn" or "being defiled by women."

So, while I'm not an expert, and thus cannot answer your question, my normal tendency, which is to discount everything in the Christian New Testament except Yahowsha's testimony, applies. These statements were not spoken by Yahowah or Yahowsha'. Further, I would never rely on anything in the CNT which isn't supported in the TP&P. Therefore, I have questions by no answers.

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#375 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:58:58 AM(UTC)
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Dowd wrote:
Good morning Yada (yada ben Yahowah),

Just listening to today's BTR Yada Yah Show and heard you describe a 'proposed' Genesis Communication Network show entitled "Shattering Myths" as an alternative to the BTR format.

While it is tempting to have a syndicated show and a full time producer (unlike "dowg!) along with a share of the advertising revenues; is it a good idea to 'hitch our wagon' to a highly popular network with a large "christian" audience? The thought of commercial breaks in your daily Yada Yah shows appals me and anything that diverts from the news/scripture format is nowhere near as effective as a teaching tool.

On such a network you will be an easier target for the "christian" apologists and I fear that your show will be a constant barrage of vocal idiots calling in to aggressively promote "Pauline" doctrine. BTR has a chat room and you are able to block idiots and teach without interruption. We average an idiot a fortnight in the Chatroom and they are dealt with "off air" and in such a way that the error in the individual's perspective is highlighted and we learn from the experience.

Large and popular we will never be, nor should we attempt to be. If there are insurmountable problems with the BTR setup then by all means, pursue an alternative host. If there are software issues that are causing the Chatroom participants problems, perhaps Yow'el could make a suggestion to improve things.

In Yahowah's name my friend

dowd ben Yahowah


Yada wrote:
Hi Dowd,

If the current YY BTR show can't be mirrored on GCN then I won't do it. I just sent a letter to GCN's program director stating as much. So it will either be half news and commentary and half Towrah Teaching, or it will be a no go.

I'm told that the audience is mostly comprised of libertarians and conspiracy theorists, albeit there will always be lots of Christians in any talk show formatted audience.

I am told that GCN has similar chat rooms.

I'd prefer to take listener calls during the shows, but with Dowg as my only helper, that's just not feasible with BTR. So this could be a plus - a relevant teaching opportunity. But it could also be a minus if I have to spend too much time shutting down the nincompoops promoting Pauline Doctrine. We see this similarly, Dowd.

I suspect the advertising breaks would be minimal due to our content, and the revenue would be between slim and none. I am told, however, that GCN has much, much larger audiences than BTR. That said, Yah's not impressed with numbers nor am I.

And I rather like the current format where we can go wherever we are led. And when I need time off for family, I simply take it and no one complains. It is nice not being interrupted. That said, I receive lots of complaints over the BTR audio streaming, especially cutting off live listeners.

The deal I cut with Yah was that I would be willing to devote the time to studying, evaluating, and sharing. He's responsible for the rest, including generating the appropriate audience and guiding their response. So, in the past I've accepted, but not promoted, opportunities to share. That is all I'm doing here.

I do not think that this is going to happen, and I'm kinda hoping that it doesn't. I enjoy what we are doing together and don't want that to change. It is comfortable and fun. And I still think that I learn as much as anyone doing it.

I appreciate your willingness to share. You are a good friend, Dowd.

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#376 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:42:08 AM(UTC)
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JP wrote:
Could you please direct me to a place where I can find a synopsis of your beliefs; regarding salvation, the Trinity, The OT, the NT and the like?

Thank you,

JP


Yada wrote:
Why would you ask anyone these questions, Josh?

If I had any "beliefs," they would be irrelevant. Yahowah's testimony is all that matters, not my opinions nor yours. And since Yahowah doesn't provide a "synopsis," preferring instead that you become observant so that you know, and thoughtful so that you understand, why ask for such a thing? All of the fun is in learning.

If you are searching for answers, turn to Him and search His Towrah - Teaching. That is what Yahowsha' told all of us to do.

It is sad that so many people focus on salvation rather than on participating in a relationship. Salvation isn't God's priority and it shouldn't be yours. Why not ask instead: How do we engage in the Covenant relationship with Yahowah?

Is your litmus test the Trinity - a Babylonian religious notion in conflict with Scripture? If it is, nothing Yahowah says will make any difference. He has answered this question as bluntly and clearly as words allow.

There is no OT and there is no NT. God's Word is comprised of the Towrah, Prophets, and Psalms. Yahowah answered this question in His Towrah. Yahowsha' answered this question in His Sermon on the Mount. Yirmayahuw answered this question in chapter 31. Why is it then that you are asking me? Don't you trust them?

I have attached An Introduction to God. If you would like to know Yahowah's answers to these questions I would encourage you to read it and then verify its translations for yourself. But, should you choose to do so, this warning: it won't do you any good until you are willing to start questioning your religion and then walk away from it. Questioning me isn't going to get you going in the right direction.

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#377 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:00:45 AM(UTC)
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JP wrote:
Ok, thank you for your time.


Yada wrote:
Is that the best response you can muster, Josh? "Ok." Are you so into beliefs that thinking isn't relevant? Do you routinely ignore answers which are incompatible with your faith?

Under such circumstances, why ask questions? The answer all too typically is religion. And that is why God hates it. I hope that you are not a victim.

Hopefully I'm wrong, and you're busy studying Yahowah's Towrah Teaching. I would love to have misjudged your attitude in this regard, and that of a few billion Christians and Muslims.

Rise to the occasion, Josh, and prove that what I've shared regarding your questions is inconsistent with Yahowah's teaching and testimony. Your soul is worth this investment of your time.

Knowing is so much better than faith. Understanding is vastly superior to believing. A relationship is better than religion. And nothing is more important than coming to know Yahowah and understanding His Covenant.

The book I gave you presents the 5 terms and conditions of Yahowah's Covenant relationship, and the 7 steps we are invited to walk to meet with God to be adopted by Him, all as they are presented in Yahowah's Towrah - Teaching. God, Himself, explains why the Trinity is a myth, why there is no Old Testament, and no New Testament. His answers are trustworthy.

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#378 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:04:47 AM(UTC)
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SV wrote:
I am relieved to get this chance to ask someone who has some insight into the more forbidden realm of human thought. I don't consider it to be rude to interject on someone's religion, as most truth seekers and hosts of truths conveniently avoid. I think therein lies the ultimate point of their intent, if their personal belief comes into light, due to all the deception plaguing this world. It makes sense to hear the Torah provide the teaching Yahuweh simply wants us to know. I also know that solutions are found within us as well, so long as we know how to listen to the song from Yahuweh that is found throughout the universe, down to our inner being. I have researched a great many of man's schemes, from all the false religions to the elite's false religions. I would like to receive the 1,000 page introduction to Yahuweh you mentioned on the broadcast from Dr. Deagle's show. Is there a copy from the Yadayah website, from Genesis to Last Days you can send, or is that the same? On to the good questions! You stated that a soul would be destroyed, or cease to exist. I feel too much like that simply cannot be. As a soul is pure energy, such as water, has to move on to another phase and does not cease to exist, but carries on. To further understand your writing, can you explain your interpretation of a soul and spirit, maybe I have those two mixed if they are not the same. How would you explain angels? Does the power of prayer and miracles come from within, or the spirit of Yahuweh and angels, or both? Last, do you feel the Torah is teaching enough for other life in the universe, or just our species on Earth? When people speak of their god, it usually fits only in the confines Earth. Thank You for your work, and maybe you can debate with Dr. Deagle on his show. It would be profound stuff!
Sincerely,
SV


Yada wrote:
SV,

Starting the middle of next month I will begin a 2-hour show M-F on the Genesis Communication Network, called Shattering Myths, broadcasting 10.00 AM to 12.00 PM ET. Join me.

I have attached An Introduction to God. It is over 1000 pages long so there is a great deal to consider.

The other collection of books, Yada Yah, is currently being edited. I expect the first 50 edited chapters will be posted at www.YadaYah.com within a couple of weeks. They are currently posted on Scribd.com along with the ITG.

To answer your question, according to Yahowah souls are mortal and spirits are immortal. We actually have no idea what comprises human or animal consciousness and thus do not know the composition of a soul. That said, all things are energy, even matter.

But according to Yah, until we avail ourselves of His means of perfection, mortal souls are not perfect or pure. And Yah repeatedly tells us that souls who do not engage in His Covenant and avail themselves of His Invitations, cease to exist. That is clear enough and I trust Him.

Yahowah explains the difference between souls and spirits and the difference between spirits as well. So if you read the ITG and then YY your questions will be answered by Him.

Angels are actually "mal'ak - messengers." They are spirits not souls. They have no freewill. They are immortal.

There is no "power of prayer." Prayer isn't even mentioned in Yahowah's Towrah. Most "miracles" aren't a result of Yahowah's intervention. He seldom intervenes so as not to interfere with freewill.

There is no way to know if the Towrah is just for us or also for others on other planets. But since we can know that it is for us, the rest does not matter. Also, the Towrah as a title is sufficient for us to transition from the mortal realm to Yahowah's eternal home. But once there, we will need and will receive supplemental towrah - teaching.

I suspect that the universe is the size it is because of the equation required to enable Yahowah's plan.

Yada
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#379 Posted : Monday, July 2, 2012 6:33:01 AM(UTC)
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M wrote:
To Yada or whomever helps with the e-mails,

Happy first day of the week :) I've been reading thru the website
and I just can't stop. I print out chapters to read while I'm
standing in line (I'm a "court runner")and walking around downtown
San Jose. Wow!! I've had some hard questions answered and so much
more makes sense now. (I always had difficulty with Paul btw.) It's
a lot to get thru, so please be patient with me as I ask questions.



Yada wrote:
Hello M (which is based upon Mowryah, meaning "Revere Yah"),

I'm currently in the middle of rewriting Yada Yah based upon what I have learned over the past few years. You will find the edited chapters posted on www.Scribd.com under Yada Yah. Soon these edits will be posted on the revised YadaYah.com website.

I've attached An Introduction to God which is my most recent book, and thus the most revealing and accurate presentation of Yahowah's Word. That website (http://www.anintroductiontogod.com/) will become functional soon.

Most open minded and thoughtful people have difficulty with Paul. So that puts you in good company. Unfortunately, it took me far to long to figure him out. But if you'd like to know how I came to my conclusions about him you can readwww.QuestioningPaul.com.





I'd like to do my own study and have a NKJV and a KJV as well as
a Strong's "with Hebrew Chaldee and Greek Dictionaries". Your
posted list is somewhat prohibitive initially for someone of my
means. Could you pick out a few for a beginner to start with or
perhaps list in a rough order of helpfulness.? Or is it already
listed as such?


Yada wrote:
The single best tool is Logos software. The Original Language version costs around 400 bucks and it provides you with everything you need to verify my translations and then do your own studies. While that is a lot of money, there are plenty of free Hebrew - English interlinears and lexicons online. Strong's is okay, but insufficient and all too often biased and inaccurate. You have to have more than one lexicon, which is the advantage of Logos. It will put 15 of them at your fingertips.

The KJV and NKJV are both horrible. I'd suggest using an interlinear and lexicon combination.





I had my first Shabbat yesterday and really had a hard time. Not
sure what to do, I tried to read but got really antsy - wanted to
straighten up, do laundry, crochet, etc. I did some reading and
took a nap, falling asleep to your radio archives. Then I had a
hard time getting to sleep last night lol! It was difficult for me
to figure out what I can and can't do on Shabbat. Online resources
were rather convoluted, inconsistent and seemingly "religous". Am I
really not supposed to have my tea hot in the morning as that's
"starting a fire" or working or something? I get the not cooking
thing. I cook from scratch so it is kinda like work. I made some
sandwiches Fiday before sundown and we had leftovers. Is it ok to
heat those up?. Am I not supposed to go anywhere? Or am I missing
the point entirely?


Yada wrote:
Observing the Shabat less about doing or not doing than it is about understanding. I cover the Shabat in the Terms section of the attached book. It is a day where we refrain from our ordinary work, from making a living, and we spend it with Yah celebrating our relationship with Him. It isn't about laundry, tea, or sandwiches - or the lack thereof.

M, to help you understand this, Torah is "teaching," not law, and there is no Hebrew word for "obey." Please don't turn what you are learning into a new religion of do and don't do. Everything Yahowah teaches is designed to help you come to know Him and understand what He is offering by way of His Covenant relationship. Yahowah wants to liberate you, not control you.




About me: I am a 41 year old married woman with a somewhat
"antiestablishment" christian background. I've known about the end
times since my father told me things as a child. It used to scare
the dickens out of me, but it didn't keep me from making sinful
choices and suffering their consequences. As a result, I have a
broken family and my children are clueless (big sob...good thing
this isn't paper)). A year or so after 9/11 I woke up as a result
of my hubby and dad recogizing the "false flag" that it was. I
became a little bit of a "prepper". Then watching/listening to the
alternative news, realized there is no way around or out except for
the one true God. So I started asking Him to show me the Way as it
just didn't seem like anyone had it figured out. I regulary
listened to GCN at work and at home and caught you in an archive of
Dr. Bill Daegle's show one morning while I was getting ready for
work. I looked up your site and became enthralled. I can't stop and
don't want to stop reading. My husband is freaking out. I told him
about Shabbat and no more bacon. I haven't told him about christmas
yet. He's going to have a conniption fit when I do. He has a very
weak christian background which may actually be a good thing in the
end :) He's never been a churchgoer - not that I really have
either. Just didn't smell right - never knew quite why! So any
encouragement would be sooooo appreciated as my extended family
probably thinks I've gone off the deep end into some cult (we have
cult experience in our family).

Yada wrote:
I am surprised by how many people have been awakened by that one hour on GCN. I'm also surprised by the fact that all of the many letters I've receive from that show have been positive rather than critical. Most people have a conniption fit when you prove that their religion is false. And yet it is the kindest thing any of us can do.

So here is some good news: starting in mid July I'm going to do a 2 hour show M-F on GCN starting at 10 AM ET. It will be called Shattering Myths. That show will mirror my current M-F program on BlogTalkRadio, called Yada Yahweh Radio. There are many hundreds of hours or archives there should you be interested (http://radio.yadayahweh.com/). During the past year we have been covering An Introduction to God and are nearly finished.

Yahowah told us repeatedly that by walking to Him we'd be distancing ourselves from all forms of human institutions, even from our families. Yahowsha' said this as well. So your story is common among all of us who have embraced His Covenant.

What I can tell you is that if those you love love their religion, there is no hope for them. You cannot convince them - not even God can convince them. So there is no reason to pester them. But if your loved ones are willing to question their religion and walk away from it when proven invalid, then an opportunity will come for you to share the truth with them. And so the best thing you can do in the mean time is to prepare yourself to be the best possible witness. In other words, continue to learn. And then share when asked.

Also, what I've found is that if you use me as a resource and simply ask loved ones to read the ITG or YY, even QP, that will not be nearly as effective as you coming to understand Yahowah's teaching to the point that you can talk to them on your own based upon what you have learned from Yah. I should be nothing more than a temporary guide, preparing you to explore His Word on your own. That is the greatest and most rewarding adventure of all. It is heaven.

Of those who listen and share during the Yada Yah Radio program, some enjoy the benefit and blessing of completely engaged and supportive spouses, some have enjoyed seeing some but not all of their loved ones embrace the truth, and some have have not.





Also, about praying... So I get the amen/amein thing. Do I just
talk to Him pretty much like I always have? Does He hear? I've
heard His Voice is soft. I dunno. Sometimes I think I hear Him, but
it seems like it's just my brain getting all stupid and messy and I
just don't know... I soooooo want to hear His Voice!! So I often
pray a version of the prayer Yahowsha' gave us in Matthew though I
modify it a bit with verbage and names that I've learned from your
site.


Yada wrote:
There is no mention of prayer in Yah's Towrah. Yahowah wants us to listen to Him and then respond based upon what we have learned. He tells us that He only hears the requests of those who are diligently seeking Him, who are willing to walk away from religion and politics, from all forms of human corruption, and then who are walking to Him along the path He has provided in His Towrah.

The best way to be certain that God is listening to you is to first listen to Him. Reading An Introduction to God will help you with this because its mission is to present Yahowah's testimony as clearly and completely as possible. And it fits right in your budget 'cause I just gave it to you.

If you read His Towrah Teaching out loud, reciting it, you will hear Yahowah's voice.





There's more, but I have an appointment this morning with family
and have to go. I would like to correspond more in the future if
you don't mind.

Thank you for .... well thank you for your obedience and the work
that you are doing.
I look forward to hearing from you.

~M


Yada wrote:
You are welcome, M. If you begin reading the attached ITG, please share your thoughts, questions, criticisms, and concerns. And join us in the chat room of the BTR program. Even consider joining the Yada Yah forum. You will find lots of support and fellowship there. And all of these things are free.

Yada / Yada

Don't take my word for it, Look it up.

“The truth is not for all men but only for those who seek it.” ― Ayn Rand
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#380 Posted : Monday, July 2, 2012 8:05:55 PM(UTC)
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Had no idea I'd see this weekend's e-mail here. Yada's reply was helpful as I was getting frustrated knowing I was missing the point re Sabbath. He confirmed :-)

"If you read His Towrah Teaching out loud, reciting it, you will hear Yahowah's voice."

I want to do this. Please someone tell me where to find this. I've tried to download items from various places here and in other forums. (Crazy as it may sound, it's made me cry more than once with frustration.)
The only place I've been successful is the yadayah site. Just about that whole thing is on my 'puter now so I can read it whenever I like. I'm taking it with me when I go see my dad & brother for a weeks vacation. They don't have internet access or tv out in them there sticks ;-) It's all on a memory stick. I'll send them an updated one once the revisions are complete.

I refuse to give up. My husband thinks I've completely lost my gourd. My sister loves Paul :-P ... (I read the first 1 1/2 chapters of QP and I got it. Will finish later. Gotta get the basics!)

I cry but that's ok. I haven't really cried for years and that was scary so I know I'm in the right place. I've never been so amazingly happy floaty stoked to read something and I'm a voracious reader! I am currently inhaling the ITG copy that Yada sent me tho it took some acrobatics at work to change it to a pdf (don't have Word).

I can and will save for Logos.
However, I have a preference for low tech portability (read: paper book). The yadayah site has been nice as I can print out chapters and read them while working (standing in line - walking around downtown, etc.)

Perhaps I'll just have to condense it myself from the pdf's I can access.

It's only been two weeks... perhaps I should be more patient with myself!
Be back soon :-)

~Mariah
please be patient with me while I try to figure this out....
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#381 Posted : Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:41:26 AM(UTC)
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Welcome Smoda!
Your passion is a delightful addition to the forum where many others share the same. My wife and I have come out of Babylon together but are only beginning to comprehend Yahowah’s Towrah. The following link is posted elsewhere in this forum. I thought you might find these videos informative:

http://www.youtube.com/w...a&list=ULU8kh0nyGndE

Also, flintface has an outstanding site here: http://blessyahowah.com/

The transition takes time, so please be patient with family/friends.
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#382 Posted : Monday, July 9, 2012 5:53:03 AM(UTC)
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MS wrote:
Hi Yada,

I've actually started this email to you several times before but for various reasons, never found myself able to send it. Today, I finally wanted to though. I've been consuming the info from your site (mostly through your daily broadcasts) for a couple of years now. Everyday, it feels like I'm drinking through a firehose. I want to say "thank you" for what you've put out here and the effort it must take to keep up with this daily.

Yada wrote:
Hi MS,

Thank you. It is a lot of effort, but it's also a lot of fun. I really enjoy learning.


My background isn't too far from yours. Most of my life I've been a patriotic, conservative, evangelical Christian. I say that simply so you have some reference to my background. A few years ago, I stopped going to church. I just got to the point where I could not take it seriously anymore. On Sundays, I would look around and think, "This cannot be what The God of Creation had in mind." I would look at the people - how they acted - particularly during The Sunday Show - and think, "This cannot be what 'relationship' is supposed to look like." All of it seemed so trite and silly... and fake. I wanted nothing to do with it anymore.

Yada wrote:
I agree. I never thought it made any sense. And there were so many obvious problems. But like patriotism, humans are prone to go along to get along. I'm glad I'm free of it now.


So that is what started my stepping away. I'm extremely thankful that it happened. Thankful that I could at least be honest enough with myself to say, "This can't be all there is." Honestly, even in my best "Christian Days" I never got excited about or interested in studying "the bible". I could always think of a hundred other things I would rather do than "study God's word" (as the Evangelicals are fond of saying).

Yada wrote:
I was a bible study guy, unfortunately and fortunately. It wasn't a complete waste of time because I am now better prepared to expose and condemn Christianity. But since you weren't there is less to unlearn, and that's a real advantage.


Then, a couple of years later I discovered your work and what you've presented on the Torah. I love the approach you've taken: getting to the earliest possible copies and translating that. It made sense. And with just the little bit I've come to understand from the amplified Hebrew and understanding it from the context of the Torah, I find Yahoweh's word to be more brilliant and fascinating than I would have ever guessed. I can't help but want to know it now. Even if there were no other reason to despise Christianity, I'm pissed that it (and religious men) sought to rob us of the richness of the Torah... but then agan, I suppose that is the crux of it all, isn't it?

Yada wrote:
Yes, Yah's Towrah - Teaching is amazing, much more insightful and brilliant than I ever dreamed possible. But a lot of that is directly related to Hebrew. And much of it is how Yah provides clues which reward earnest seekers with understanding.

I'm angry at Christianity for the same reason you are.


So, all that to say, "you've sold me" and I'm grateful for your work. Thank you.

Yada wrote:
Yah invited you and you responded. I just shared what He offered.


Now I have a bigger problem. When I stopped going to church, it left a void for my family. Unfortunately, my wife filled that void by returning to her "Catholic roots". So she and my two daughters are Catholic and I have my work cut out for me here. While I constantly challenge her on "all things Catholic", I often have to stop short before the discussion devolves into an all-out, emotionally-charged, argument. I do that because of my daughters - whatever the substance of the discussion, it will be lost in the trauma of the argument. I don't know that my tack is right and I do understand very well what is in the balance. I'm just hoping to use a scapel rather than a hand grenade to extract them from the shitpile of Catholicism.

Yada wrote:
Your wife choosing to remain religious, and thus ignorant, irrational, and in opposition to God, is an adult choice, so you have to let her do her thing. All you can do is remind her how utterly stupid and demonic it is. But with your daughters, that's a different issue. You owe them your best effort on the Towrah. It's your job as a dad. There is no getting around it. Learn as much as you can and then teach them.

You probably know this already, but most all of us are in this same boat. It isn't easy. And failure is far more common than success. Religion is a tough foe because evidence and reason don't prevail against it. The religious won't even consider Yahowah's own testimony.


As for me, I'm trying to understand my relationship with Yahowah on His terms. This past spring, my "observation" of Passover, Unleavened Bread and First Fruits consisted of little more than me talking to Him and acknowledging each day and what I understand His intent and purpose for each. I don't know if that was enough to start a relationship with Him or not. I really don't know. I don't know if that means I'm through the doorway, if He knows me or if He can even hear my prayers. It's a scary place to be. So, I'm pressing on, and trying to learn. Hopefully I'll meet Him on His terms.

Yada wrote:
The bigger issue really is the Covenant. So long as you have accepted its five conditions, you're part of His family. Of course, one of those conditions asks you to walk to Him and become perfect, and that means observing the seven Invitations. As for them, understanding and responding is the key, so you are headed in the right direction.

I've attached the ITG as a help to better understand His Word.


Anyway, I've written a book here. I guess I mostly wanted to introduce myself and let you know there is someone else out here who you've had an imipact on. And again, thank you for all of your work and efforts.

Yada wrote:
Thank you for sharing, MS. While I don't deserve any credit, I find great satisfaction in knowing that my study and your response to God's Towrah has brought a smile to Yah's face. That's a pretty good use of one's life.

Don't take my word for it, Look it up.

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#383 Posted : Monday, July 9, 2012 5:55:05 AM(UTC)
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Koos wrote:
Yada,
Can I ask you a favour please.
I need to verify the following translation of Ps. 40 v 6 which goes like this "Sacrifice and offering You did not desire; but a body You have prepared for Me; burnt offering and sin offering You did not require".

The author comments on this verse as follows: "In Psalm 40:6 the Masoretic text (Psalm 40:7 in the Stone Edition) has purposely changed the phrase "a body you have prepared for me", as properly quoted again in Hebrews 10:5, and verified by the Dead Sea Scrolls. This verse speaks of a man who has a special body prepared for Him by YHWH, to come to earth because the scrolls of Torah testify of Him. Now if you were a counter-Yahshua missionary evangelist, you'd want this verse tampered with also. That is exactly what they did. They changed Psalm 40:6 to "you opened my ears."

Is this translation true? Namely "but a body You have prepared for Me".
I have no way of verifying this apart from asking you.
Be blessed.
Koos


Yada wrote:
Koos,

Sorry, but according to the DSS Bible, only the first line of the 40th Psalm is found among the Qumran scrolls, so the claim you have cited is not accurate. Also, in the MT, there is no mention of a body in the 5th, 6th, or 7th verse. This sounds like wishful religious garbage to me.

And speaking of smelling like garbage, Hebrews is rubbish, completely bogus, and so someone trying to authenticate it is wasting their time at best, and serving Satan at worst. Also, apart from Passover, Yahowsha' body was meaningless. It was destroyed that night, as well, negating the errant Christian concept of bodily resurrection.

So this is a journey away from the truth. Sorry.

That said, the Psalm itself is marvelous.

Yada
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#384 Posted : Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:45:18 AM(UTC)
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CR chat (irrelevant posts removed) wrote:

Subject: YY radio CR 7/13/12
cgb2 says (11:28:38):
Mat 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,’ shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of My Father in the heavens.
cgb2 says (11:28:53):
Mat 7:22 “Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?’
cgb2 says (11:29:07):
Mat 7:23 “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’1 Footnote: 1 See v. 15.
pilgrimhere says to (11:29:17):
one must be known in order to be loved
Yada (Cohost) says to (11:29:27):
the "not everyone" was added later
cgb2 says (11:29:55):
This seems to be about religious clerics, missionaries and such who WORK torahlessness
Yada (Cohost) says to (11:30:31):
7:21 should read without the "not" as far as I know
cgb2 says (11:31:04):
Also almost condemns "master" (ba'al, lord, owner) too
Yada says to (11:31:49):
I was expelled from the cr twice, who I'd appreciate it cgb if you would please send me a copy of it via email.
cgb2 says (11:32:17):
NO prob I'll add you to today DL
Yada says to (11:32:38):
Thank you.
Yada says to (11:34:46):
I do, however, like to read the cr after the show when time permits.
Hiashi says to (11:39:02):
Someone quoted Mat 7:21 a little while ago. Yahowsha' seems to be advocating the master/lord title there, is this a Greek translation issue?
cgb2 says (11:40:39):
Hiashi it's a passage regarding many who think they know him, but never did. WORKers of torahlessness. Even regarding him as master, ba'al, lord etc
Yada (Cohost) says to (11:41:45):
right.. it has never been Palestine.
Yada (Cohost) says to (11:42:04):
as for 7:21, it reads more accurately as: All those calling Me ‘Lord Lord’ will not enter the kingdom of heaven, but to the contrary, those in heaven are those who do My Father’s will
Yada says to (11:42:04):
I cover the Mat 7.21 passage in the ITG.
Yada says to (11:42:31):
I'm convinced that the "not" was moved.
Yada says to (11:43:27):
When you read it in context, it's obvious that Yahowsha' said that "those who call Me Lord, Lord, will not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Yada (Cohost) says to (11:43:55):
Many will say to Me in this specific day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not speak inspired utterances and prophesy in your name and drive out demons in your name, and perform many mighty miracles in your name?’ And then at that time, I will profess to them that I
Yada (Cohost) says to (11:43:57):
never knew them. You all must depart from Me, those who bring about that which is in opposition to the Torah (anomia – Lawless).” (Mattanyah / Matthew 7:21-23)
Yada says to (11:44:45):
Yep. Question answered. Read the Towrah and come to know the will of Yah.
Yada says to (11:45:06):
Read the Towrah and come to know Yahowsha'.
Hiashi says to (11:45:11):
Ah. I was reading through the eyewitness accounts a while ago and kurios just seems to pop up everywhere.
Yada says to (11:46:01):
Kurios isn't actually written out anywhere in the eyewitness accounts.
Yada (Cohost) says to (11:46:18):
hmmm that's curious...
Yada says to (11:47:19):
And when you compare the use of the placeholder in the oldest eyewitness MSS with the Septuigent, you find that the same placeholder was used in it to present Yahowah.
Yada says to (11:49:52):
I'm off. See Yah Monday. Have a inspired Shabat everyone.
BloodBath says to (11:50:04):
you too. See Yah
cgb2 says (11:50:14):
u2. Shabat Shalowm all!
Yada (Cohost) says to (11:50:47):
Have a great and restful, reflective Shabat, Ya'll
Yada says to (11:50:48):
Please send me a copy of the cr, cgb. Thanks Chuck.
cgb2 says (11:50:58):
Yep will do Yada


Yada wrote:

Thank you, Chuck.


cgb2 wrote:

You’re welcome….and thanks for the amplification of the Mat 7 passage.
Although ISR-1998 is quick to search/copy/paste with Esword, nice the CR fellowship helps to catch its errors.

Wow, that really makes sense & consistent with Hosea and such, and shows how corrupted/twisted English translations are to mislead many.
That hit me like a ton of bricks when I was able to re-read/focus..<CR discussion>


cgb2 wrote:

Well maybe needs further investigation: Master* is KE placeholder, and SW seems to keep the “Not everyone....”

Not everyone, individually and collectively, who says and teaches, maintains and affirms, directs and exhorts, advises and points out to Me “Master*, Master*,” will go, come or enter into the kingdom and royal power, dominion and rule, kingship, reign and authority of the heavens, the abode of the Supreme One. But nevertheless, notwithstanding and on the contrary, the one who does and performs, executes and accomplishes, practises and brings about, undertakes and creates, keeps and carries out, constructs and establishes, forms and produces, appoints and ordains, celebrates and constitutes the will and purpose, desire and choice, mind and wish, purposeful intent and decision, gracious disposition and good pleasure, decree and law, precept and inclination of My Father, He Who is within and inside the heavens, His abode. Many numerous and large amounts of people will say to Me in that day, ‘Master*, Master*, did we not prophecy and proclaim, announce and preach, predict and speak forth by inspirations in Your name and title, character and person, reputation and authority? And throw out and expel, drive out and repudiate, pull and tear out, bring and send out, cast and extract out, dispose of and eject, banish and get rid of demons, the fallen messengers and envoys, in Your name and title, character and person, reputation and authority? And do and perform, accomplish and execute, practise and bring about, undertake and create, keep and carry out, construct and establish, form and produce, appoint and ordain, celebrate and constitute many numerous and large amounts of supernaturally strong, powerful and mighty miracles, deeds and wonders in Your name and title, character and person, reputation and authority?’ And then, at that time, I will publically profess and confess, declare and openly acknowledge, bear witness and state, admit and say to them concerning this; ‘But I never knew or understood, perceived or realised, noticed or discerned, discovered or observed, experienced or ascertained, learn about or distinguished, thought about or comprehended, acknowledged or recognised you at any time. ‘Go away and depart, withdraw from and leave Me alone, becoming separated from Me, you who accomplish and execute, bring about and construct, establish and work, produce and perform, practise and carry out, acquire and enforce lawlessness, the willing disobedience and violation of the Torah, and you who treated the Torah with contempt and opposition.’ *


Yada wrote:

I comment on this passage in several places in YY, the ITG, and in QP. And based upon understanding the context of this statement, I'm convinced that religious scribes moved the word not. It is the only way the statement makes any sense and is consistent with Yahowsha's review of the Towrah.

As for the placeholder, I've said all that I care to say about it and them in YY and in the ITG.

SW's "translations" are almost impossible to read.


cgb2 wrote:

Thanks for your response…Whew, I had already corrected/marked it up in my “The Scriptures” large print hardcopy edition.

Yes SW’s are really difficult to read, and would have liked it better if it confirmed it, but increasingly see TWTY less than authoritative, or even the greek interpretation….especially if beguiled by Paul and renewed covenants already to have occurred and such.

Wasn’t it Eusibeus (sp? – “church father” late 300s) who wrote of “heretics who still practice the old law but yet believe in messiah and have copies of Matthew in Hebrew”. I sure would like it if some archeologist unearthed one, but too bad the church murdered so many of these “heretics” and destroyed those copies, only to stack the deck with their well funded scribes in greek.

Admittedly been a while since I read ItG, longer since QP, and really long time since YY and don’t remember the Mat 7 parts. Just wanted to make sure this was rock solid before ever using it as an example…but still maybe better to use T/P/P on this issue since hard to prove the tampering, or specifically with 7:21 anyways, but what followed was condemning of the workers of torahlessness even in awful translations.


Yada wrote:

Well done, C. That is the right answer. I am pleased that you went directly to it.

Yahowsha' spoke Hebrew. And at this very moment He was speaking about the Hebrew letters which comprise the words of the Hebrew Towrah. Further, Mattanyah wrote what Yahowsha' said in Hebrew. And as you have stated, heretics altered his testimony when they changed it to Greek.

So the oldest version of Matthew is a translation of what the Apostle wrote two to three centuries later in a highly religious environment in Egypt. And we know that there have been 300,000 copyedits to the Greek text. Therefore, you always have to be on your guard for tampering. This is one of those places. Here in fact I'm convinced that the evidence of tampering is obvious.

We have three choices with this statement in the context of observing the Towrah and avoiding wolves. 1) Yahowsha' said something similar to what is now recorded in Greek. If so, then this statement is out of sync with everything surrounding it. 2) The placeholder KS (kurios - lord/master was not written out in any pre-Constantine text) was deployed to represent Yahowah's name, just like it is throughout the oldest copies of the Septuagint. In that case He said: "Not all of those who call Me Yahowah, Yahowah, will enter heaven." That makes sense. Just knowing that Yahowah is God is insufficient. You have to observe His Towrah and accept His Covenant. That was the focus of this discussion. Or 3) The placeholder should not have been used by the Greek translator because Yahowsha' said 'adony or ba'al. And if that is the case, the negation was misplaced to salvage the Christian religion. This would mean that Yahowsha' said, "All those who call Me "Lord, Lord / Ba'al, Ba'al" will NOT enter the kingdom of heaven.

Therefore, I think that the most rational conclusion is option 3, but option 2 is also viable.

Mat 7 is presented in YY, QP, and the ITG, but between them they represent 4000 pages, so it's hard to remember everything.

The best choice is always to rely on the Towrah, Prophets, and Psalms.

If you think that this might help others, please post our exchange in the Forum.
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#385 Posted : Monday, July 16, 2012 6:36:39 AM(UTC)
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D wrote:

Hey Yada,

I love your Yada-Yahweh site and your work. My friend and I are living and working in South Korea. My friend, M, is actually a part-time preacher at a local Christian church. I turned him on to your site and now both of us are on fire with the information. I want to thank you for that.

I'm having a problem with the circumcision issue even though I happen to be circumcised. Having admitted to that, why would Yahweh craft our bodies one way and then ask us to mutilate it? This is where the whole thing seems to fall apart. I'm listening now to your blog-talk about the covenant so I understand your thinking and understand the genesis of it - it just seems inconsistent. Everything you talk about makes so much sense until you say that God doesn't let us into Heaven unless we're clipped. There has got to be a misunderstanding here somewhere.

I love the rest of it though,

Daniel


Yada wrote:
D,

Hello in SK.

Circumcision is hardly mutilation - especially when it is done per Yahowah's instructions on the eighth day. If you are not circumcised, blame your parents, not God.

I've attached the Introduction to God which explains why Yahowah chose circumcision as the sign of His covenant. It makes perfect sense.

There is no misunderstanding regarding the requirement of males being circumcised to engage in the Covenant, to benefit from Passover, and to enter heaven. While it does not save you, it will preclude your salvation. Yahowah makes this absolutely clear. And only He can enable these benefits.

Paul preyed on the notion that lots of people would be opposed to circumcision. His rejection of the Covenant, the Miqra'ey, and the Towrah were based upon his animosity towards it. So be careful here. It's fine to express you dismay privately, but only if you diligently seek answers from Him. And for that, you have to turn to His Towrah teaching - not to me.

The attached ITG will help you understand the Towrah which is why I've sent it to you. It therefore provides the answer to your question.

Yada

I'm surprised that a Christian can listen to this, especially a pastor. Most everything Yahowah said and did are opposed to his religion.

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#386 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:27:51 AM(UTC)
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D wrote:

Hi again Yada - this is D in South Korea,

I was showing your site to friends of mine in New Jersey, we all love the site.

I want you to know where I'm coming from: I'm an agnostic and have been for most of my life. My position is that I don't know if there is a god/God because I can't see him, he doesn't speak to me, I've never died and gone to Heaven (as far as I know)... etc.

My friends and I have a question we kicked around today and we wished we had had your input: What if you're wrong? Your website and your view of a mono-theistic, middle-eastern religion, to me, seems to be the most well thought-out. But what if all your heady research is simply in the wrong direction. What if the original Torah is not what you think it is or is some kind of super-natural or super technological fraud? I want to be as sure as you are, I'm not seeing it yet.

As I said the other day, you had me until circumcision. God's commandment to see everyone in Heaven clipped seems absurd to me. I have been searching for the real God for many years now. Kudos to you for getting me this far.

Thank you again


Yada wrote:
D,

If you are genuinely searching for Yahowah, and if you are willing to closely examine and carefully consider His Towrah - Teaching, if you remain receptive and resolutely rational, you will come to know Him and you will come understand exactly what He is offering. But this will not occur without considerable effort on your part. There are no shortcuts. There are no sound bytes. This is not supposed to be easy. It is a voyage of discovery - one that will last forever if you choose to embark on it. But if this process of learning, evaluating, and considering does not appeal to you, if you think it is too difficult and not enough fun, then you wouldn't like heaven anyway so there is no reason to proceed.

You will not find God if you question me rather than Him, if you seek answers from me and not from Him, if you make assumptions like "your view of a mono-theistic, middle-eastern religion." Nothing in that statement is relevant or accurate.

I am irrelevant. It matters not if I am right or wrong. What matters is that Yahowah is relevant. It matters that He is right. I am not asking you to trust me or to follow me. I am not even trying to convince you to trust or to follow Him. I'm nothing more than a guide. What you decide based upon His message, His direction, is up to you. I'm just trying to help you read and understand His Testimony. That is all the ITG and YY represent.

Every agnostic that I've encountered thus far, who has read Yada Yah or now the Introduction to God has come to know what I know, absolutely and unequivocally. It is much easier for an agnostic than it is for a Christian or religious Jew to know God as He revealed Himself. You have less to unlearn and walk away from than they do. So you have a head start. And unlike the religious, evidence and reason matter to you.

And yes, Yahowah proves His existence beyond any doubt. He speaks to those who listen with great clarity. He guides those who are observant with tremendous precision - at least He does if you give Him the opportunity to do so.

When and if you have read the first five volumes of An Introduction to God and the first four volumes of Yada Yah, send me another note. If you are not part of Yahowah's Covenant Family by that time, you will be an anomaly.

One last thing: there are no commandments and there will be no bodies in heaven. Yahowah isn't demanding anything of you and a material form in a spiritual realm would be a liability. But Yah has presented you with a most generous and beneficial offer, one you can accept, reject, or ignore. But you cannot change it. The offer is the Covenant. It is a relationship agreement. Circumcision is your signature.

I hope that you invest the time to read the ITG (www.IntroToGod.org) and YY (www.YadaYah.com). If you do, you will find what you are looking for. You have His promise on that.

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Originally Posted by: M& Go to Quoted Post
Hi Yada,

I would like to first say thank you so much for all the research and information you have provided over the years. I read whatever you've written whenever I can, but not everything such as the terrorist stuff. My primary mission is to "yada" Yahowah and I am keenly aware that you seem very close to right on most everything I've read (SF3). My secondary mission is to help those I love to find what I have found. There is of course that old addage about leading a horse to water....... Nevertheless, I'm sure that you have run into a certain amount of scepticism over the years and that the idea of having to admit you were wrong is frought with a fair amount of stress and fear that your credibility will be undermined. I know that you seem not to care what people think of you and that the only thing that matters is what Yahowah thinks. I agree. Still, having credibility does make your job a bit easier. At the same time, when you know you have been in error you naturally want to correct it as quickly as possible. Hence your opening remarks alluding to the name of our Father and His Son and His Son's title.

Yada wrote:
Hi M (and R),

I am glad that you are interested in yada' Yahowah and that you have found my research useful in this quest.

While my credibility should be irrelevant, I understand that it is relevant to many. And I agree that it is important to admit when we are wrong and to correct the record. And speaking of doing this, I'm currently in the midst of correcting Yada Yahweh making it Yada Yah. I've posted the edited chapters at: http://www.scribd.com/yadayah/collections. Hopefully, I'll complete a pass through all of YY in the next month so that the revised chapters can be posted in the Scribd.com pdf format at the YadaYah.com site. Unfortunately, there was a lot more to correct than just Yahowah, Yahowsha', and Ma'aseyah.

As for An Introduction to God, it is posted at www.IntroToGod.org.




I know you either intend to or are in the midst of writing "An Introduction to God" and that much of what you need to address regarding the change in interpretation and/or pronunciation of His Shem will be taken care of there. My problem is probably just patience, however I am always trying to get people to read what you've written and so when they are new and have not read extensively of your many volumes, like I have and therefore find you very credible, having them read and be told they don't know God's name and that they should stop saying the many false ones that glorify the evil one unintendedly is a hard enough thing to convice people of and to actually force our minds to do. But then to have you with all of your expertise tell us in a very short paragraph that you've been wrong and that you'll get back to us on it is a little tough to deal with.

Yada wrote:
It's all a matter of time, Mark. If I had corrected Yada Yah before writing An Introduction to God, I'd have to redo every thing again because I learned so much in the process of writing it. So I wanted to complete the first five volumes of it before editing YY. And now that I'm two months into editing YY, my challenge is now the quality of those edits. If all I did was remove the positive references to Paul, to what I errantly called a Renewed Covenant, and then corrected the errant transliterations of the names, it would be done quickly but the chapters would still be filled with errors. So I find myself switching back and forth between fixing the biggest blunders and retranslating every passage and then rewriting all of the commentary.

No one is more embarrassed by the errors in YY than I am and no one is more eager to correct them than I. But it isn't fast nor easy.

And for your use, I'd recommend the ITG which I've also attached.


Me personally, well I just try to substitute Yahowah wherever I encounter Yahweh or God and Yahowsha wherever I encounter Yahushua or Jesus and Meyaseyah for Mesiah. What might be helpful is a guide in not only how to read your books while substituting the proper names for the errantly interpreted ones, but have you considered a guide on how to read a Bible?

Yada wrote:
The first two sections of the ITG do this, providing you with the tools to study on your own.


I noticed you based much of what you've written on the KJV or some form of that, which actually shocked me considering what you said the good old King did and intended.

Yada wrote:
I don't rely on the KJV or NKJV (I hate both and condemn both), so you have mistakenly inferred that I've written Future History and the Torah Code. Those books were written by Ken Power. That is where you got your SF idea. I, Yada, wrote all seven volumes of Yada Yahweh, Questioning Paul, and now An Introduction to God.

Ken still has one foot in Christianity and is still wed to Paul. And he seems to have no interest in correcting anything that he has written. That saddens me because I really like Ken and he has many outstanding insights.


But I guess you have to start somewhere. My desire is to READ the Scriptures again. I find I cannot! I don't trust anything I read there. I only trust what you say it says. I do go back and forth and test to see that you are not misleading me (be like a Berean) but I just can't read the misinterpreted word that man has tried to kill my soul with. So I find myself reading yours over and over instead.

Yada wrote:
First, I'm glad you are checking up on me. That is exactly what I want you to do. And second, like I said, the Word and Name volumes of the attached ITG will make you an independent student of Yah's Word. I'm trying to put myself out of business by equipping you.



I wish I could read/speak Hebrew or whatever the Qumran Scrolls are written in. Or Greek and then I could try to look at some of that 1st century writing that predates Constantine. I'm sure I'm not the first person to mention any of this. But how am I supposed to read God's word now? Wait for you to write more?

Yada wrote:
Well, I have written 1700 pages since YY (QP and ITG), so there is more to read - in addition to the rewritten material in V1 - V4 of YY. And now that you've asked and I've tried to answer the challenge of preparing you to translate and consider Scripture on your own, if you read the ITG you'll have to let me know if my attempt succeeded.


What about when you disappear again? I mean no ill, but you have put yourself in a position where you say that its all there in the Torah, Prophets and Psalms, and some of the Not Yet Renewed Covenent, (but nothing that Paul wrote, which is most of it) but that every single version that I've seen is corrupted. So what am I to do for daily reading? How do I share with others?

Yada wrote:
You may not know this Mark, but I do a 90 minute radio program (http://radio.yadayahweh.com/) M-F at 8-9.30 am PT called Yada Yah, and I'm about to move to and begin a 2 hour M-F program called Shattering Myths on the Genesis Communication Network from 7.00 to 9.00 am PT M-F. Please, listen in either to the live program or to the archives at a later time.


Best regards,

M (Ris my Red Lab and best friend, not to mention an angel that I'm sure Yahowah sent my way)

Yada wrote:
I'm fond of labs. My current lab is black, but I've enjoyed the company of yellows and liver colored labs.

Yada


Originally Posted by: M& Go to Quoted Post
Hi Yada,

Thank you so much for your quick response. There is a lot there to consume, which is what I crave. I'm sorry to hear about Ken. I am not 100% sure what to make of Paul, as I didn't complete your tome on him. I have felt for a long time that he was questionable, but I was very afraid that you were being misled in going after him so completely and it made it hard to read so much of what you (guys) wrote to think that I was reading something that you would later disparage in some way, so I put that section down and ignored what I knew you would later say and focused on your first stuff where I got to know Yah. I have no regrets! I loved all of it and am thrilled to my core to have finally found what I could never find in Church or the Bible or from any "religion" or...... I am certain the Spirit was pulling me this way from a long time ago. I tried a lot of "churches" and Bibles.

Yada wrote:
M (and R - my third lab was named R),

It took me 50 years to figure Paul out. I was misled for a very long time. It was one of the greatest mistakes of my life.

A reader of YY wrote me from New Zealand three years ago and asked me to let him know if Christians were quoting Paul accurately in Galatians when he said that the Torah could not save, and then spoke of a new and different covenant. I devoted a year to studying Galatians in particular, and Paul's letters generally, with the hope of exonerating Paul. The book Questioning Paul began that way. But soon I was confronted by statements which could not be excused - statements which spoke against the Towrah and the Covenant. So I completed the book based upon what I had discovered. I'd encourage you to read it. (www.QuestioningPaul.com) If you do, please write me again when you are done.

At that moment I had a choice. I could either rewrite YY and remove Paul from it, or turn to the Torah and learn as much as I could about it so that I could undo the damage Paul had done to me and to so many others. I chose the later, and the ITG is the result. So now, finally, two years later I'm removing Paul from YY. (I'm especially appropriately vicious against Paul in the ITG so you may want to read QP before the ITG.)

As in all things Yah, once you come to understand what is truthful and what is not, you won't have any regrets. Being free of Pauline Doctrine is now one of the great thrills of my life. Everything makes sense.

It was the realization that Paul was a false prophet in league with Satan that caused the split between Ken and myself. He has not read Questioning Paul.


I am aware of the radio show, and occasionally can catch it, but it falls during the middle of the work day so besides working through lunch often, when I don't, I'm usually reading your stuff. I have downloaded it to every device I have from PC to Laptop to Nook Book and I get it live on my Cell when I must resort to that. I live a very busy life with my wife (today is our 29th Anniversary) and our dogs and Children and Grands.

Yada wrote:
You may want to listen to the archives. For the past year or so we have been going through the ITG. I share a lot more on the program than is written in the book.


We travel rarely, but I am working on the house and garden and yard (when God sends rain) all the time. I am otherwise so consumed by reading what you write or others you recommend, from Griffin to Quigly that I even canceled my Daily Newspaper and got rid of Cable. Thank you very much!

Yada wrote:
Griffin's Creature is an enjoyable read. Quigly not so much. Robertson's Proof of a Conspiracy is short and sweet, and Epperson's The Unseen Hand is quite good. Buerrel's Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism is enlightening too.


So you've given me more and all I ask is that you pray for me that I may find a closer relationship with Him! I've beaten Cancer twice and much more and I know He has a purpose for me in this life. But it's even better to know that my purpose in the next is not to bow down and say "alah" and all the other crud, but that He just wants to be my Father and friend!

I will listen in when I can.

I wish you nothing but the best. Thank you for listening to Yahowah and spreading His true meaning.

All of His Blessings!

Yada wrote:
Your purpose in life is to listen to Yahowah, to come to know Him and love Him, to observe His Towrah and understand His Covenant so that you can engage in it with Him, and then share what you have learned with others. It is my purpose in life, too. It is the purpose of life.

Yada


Sincerely,

M


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#388 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:31:29 AM(UTC)
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You've got me scratching my head Yada but I have a feeling that that is what you do best - making people think.

My opinions are formed from digesting a lot of Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, David Duke, Bill Deagle, Mike Rivero, about 80 gigabytes of patriot films stored on a hard drive, college professors and a bookshelf full of books and essays. Having said that, I don't know it all and I've been wrong before.

Some of the most important things that I've learned have come from people that I initially disagreed with. The best thing about having friends is that you can disagree and still have them.



Yada wrote:
D,

I suspected that this was where you were getting this information. But since I have found it counterproductive to debate the merits of other authors or hosts, so I'm not going to engage here.

Your views on what's wrong with America are sound, and they are relatively uncommon, so that is a good start. As for the other two issues, blaming Israel and believing that the US government perpetrated 9.11, all I'm going to say is that hating Israel is common among conspiracy advocates, but much of their motivation is anti-Semitism. And this perspective will keep you from knowing Yahowah. It is invalid and blinding.

As for the 9.11 conclusions, they are wrong, but they are not going to preclude you from finding and knowing Yahowah if you continue to read and study. All I'd ask is that you begin to question those who have made a living telling you this is so.

Considering the GCN audience, the issues you have raised will make this an interesting ride. All I can hope is that there are a considerable number of agnostics like you who listen to the program. With agnostics, evidence and reason still matter.

For your sake, D, please continue to read the ITG.

Yada


D wrote:
Yada .. D in South Korea.

I grabbed your July 18th audio blog this morning. Good program and I got you're reference to me.

Insight into D's thinking: I left the US permanently for political and moral reasons in 2006. I could no longer support a murderous American-Israeli empire with my tax money. Before 9-11 I was fully aware of the crimes of the United States: Kennedy assassination lies, Vietnam false-flag, Mena Arkansas drug scandal, Prescott Bush's business dealings with NAZIs, the US overthrow of Guatemala, Operation Paperclip, Condor, Northwoods, Tuskegee syphilis experiment, sinking of the Maine, the Lusitania, FDR's advanced-knowledge, USS Liberty bombing and cover-up. But nothing could have prepared me for learning the truth about September 11th, 2001. The US government murdering three-thousand of our fellow Americans and stealing trillions of dollars from the American people with a light show spectacular that would make George Lucas proud.

These days we are surrounded by evidence of America's self inflicted wound and you're either awake or you've lost your soul. If you're up for a Skype conversation about this my Skype ID is ***** . The voice chat is free and I'd love a chance to tell you how much I love your Yada site.

Thank you for the information and great radio, and good luck on GCN next week. I'll be there with you.


Yada wrote:
D,

I think you are half cocked on some of these issues. You're absolutely right in saying that America is rotten to the core - and for many of the reasons that you have mentioned. We completely concur on these things. I've researched most of them and came to the same conclusions. And the fact that you left for moral reasons, I applaud.

But America is no friend of Israel, preferring to enrich and sell weapons to the Islamic OPECers. There is no such thing as a Palestinian People, and the Muslims who are terrorizing Jews have no right to the Land. That is a history you will have to reconcile before you come to terms with Yahowah. That is not to say, however, that Jews are generally good, most aren't. But when you move to the point that you start blaming them, as if they were responsible for most of the world's issues, you're headed in the wrong direction. You will need to let go of this animosity to embrace Yah. And once you do, you can start being frustrated with Yahuwdym and Yisra'elites, but for entirely different reasons.

You are wrong if you believe the myth that 9-11 was an American plot. However, America's response to it has been completely irrational and immoral, murdering hundreds of thousands of people and squandering trillions of dollars making a bad situation much worse. But the act itself was perpetrated by fundamentalist Muslims. It was conceived by Ramsy Youseph in the Philippines five years in advance and was staffed out of the Al Qod mosque in Hamburg, Germany. All 19 suicide bombers were fundamentalist Muslims.

I'm going to have to pass on the Skype chat for now. I'm trying to complete the edits of YY V5 and V6 before next week. I made a boatload of mistakes.

I appreciate you listening to the old program and willingness to listen to the new one. At GCN most in the audience will agree with your view of 9.11. That will be a challenge for me because the truth is so obvious.

I felt bad about calling you out anonymously during the show. I'm sorry. But I had higher expectations for you than what I saw in your last letter. The fact that you aren't holding it against me speaks volumes about your character.

The issues you have raised are important, in that they speak to Yahowah's initial covenant request, which is for us to walk away from our country and from human institutions. You've already done this. But I think you took some baggage with you that was better left behind.

Yada

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#389 Posted : Friday, July 20, 2012 6:30:06 AM(UTC)
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Dowd wrote:
Dear Yada ben Yahowah (Yada),

Just a note to wish you all the best as you begin the mission of 'Shattering Myths on the GCN network. On a related matter, I read the article from Tim King of Salem news and am not surprised. As a secular humanist he is clueless and that is putting it politely. My guess is that you will meet many more 'Tim King' types on GCN than you ever experienced at Blogtalk Radio and that may well make your debut a rather unpleasant one. Many will seek to have you removed from the lineup and time will tell if the GCN Executives can stand the heat.

Yada wrote:
Yes, that is what I expect. But if I recall, Yahowsha' met a number of TKs and His experience was rather unpleasant too. But He did hide in His house and only talk to His friends and family.

I am willing to do this, but I'm not looking forward to it. I am comfortable at BTR and I will be uncomfortable at GCN.

That said, I think I am prepared for it. The TK exchange didn't bother me at all. In fact, I'm thinking about using it during the first show. The idea would be to explain where I've been, and how I've come to this place, including the study of Islam, and then use the TK exchange to reveal how not to respond to those who challenge your beliefs. That way I can speak to Christians without initially hammering Christians over the head - revealing their flaws but through someone else. TK made all of the usual mistakes, he was ignorant, irrational, mistaken in a popular notion, thought his opinions were fact, even enlightened, and then he responded with ad hominem combined with the restatement of a claim as if claiming it made it true (JC was a Muslim prophet). You could not ask for a better example of what not to do when you hear things which are inconsistent with your views.

As for demanding that I leave, that is what I expect. I've told GCN this many times. They are saying that the more controversy, the better. We'll see.


Tim King's response is typical of the humanist with being judgemental the ultimate sin. He claims to have written to you asking only questions. In actual fact his first letter to you was full of personal insults and put downs. Every statement he uttered was woven with falsehoods while his reference to low brow is farcical. He has a large audience and will use it to slander your efforts. In that regard he is best described as a tool of ha Satan, wittingly or unwittingly.

Yada wrote:
Agreed. He accused me of lying and yet he lied. But as for being slandered, I consider that a good thing. He brought attention back to the POD site which was loosing its audience because I was no longer promoting it.



If GCN is the host of the Fox News egomaniacs like Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity and Beck; we are in for a rocky ride. Speak the Truth boldly and bluntly. Don't change your confrontational style. The Ma'aseyah Yahowsha' used the same approach when confronting 'awon so you are in good company.

Yada wrote:
L and H are on Clear Channel. It is biggest in this business. O and B are also on mega syndicates. GCN is a very small player when it comes to radio affiliates.


We must always focus on the souls who will hear Yahowah's Towrah mitswah, mishpat and choq for the first time and will become members of Yahowah's Covenant family as a result of listening to a GCN Shattering Myths Radio Show. The Tim King's of this world are a distraction, nothing more. If only one person comes to know, understand, trust and rely on Yahowah and His Towrah then it will have been worth the effort. That is surely true when we realise that Yahowah created the Universe and all that is in it so that mere thousands, out of billions of souls, would choose of their own volition, to become recipients of His chesed.

That is why I accepted this opportunity. In the guest appearance I did a month ago on GCN, a dozen people have responded, having written long letters and have begun reading the ITG. So, if we develop 1000 new enemies, but add one member to the family in the process, then the mission, no matter how short or bitter, will be worth engaging in.

Yada wrote:
The question for me really is how to lead people to the place where as many as possible listen long enough to accept Yah's terms and conditions - or at least seek to learn more about them. But I haven't given this much thought, because I'm working 12 hours a day trying to complete the edits to YY.



I look forward to beginning with the Re'syth volume of Yada Yah on Monday morning. This volume surely shatters some of Christianity's myths regarding creation and the flood.

May Yahowah bless your efforts to reveal His Truths Yada

Your friend and brother

dowd ben Yahowah

Yada wrote:
Dowd ben Yahowah has a nice sound to it. I rather like your accepted name. And yes, I agree. Re'syth ought to be a perfect place to start for the GCN crowd.

In Yah,

Yada

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#390 Posted : Sunday, July 22, 2012 2:29:18 PM(UTC)
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Dowd wrote:
Dear Yada ben Yahowah,

Hello Yada.

I have a request, and while I appreciate it may not be possible, is Yow'el able to edit out the advertising in the GCN shows for the podcast versions? Here in New Zealand and in countries other than the USA, the advertisements are at best,of no interest, and at worst, a distraction with four ad breaks per hour of broadcasting.

On another matter, my son B has sent me the link to enable the GCN podcasts to be downloaded to iTunes.

Here are B's instructions for Yahowah's Covenant Family who may be wondering what to do:

"...In iTunes click advanced > Subscribe to Podcast > and enter this in the url box that appears:

http://podcast.gcnlive.c...hatteringMyths/pcast.php

When the show starts this week they should start downloading like the BTR shows..."


In Yahowah's name

Dowd ben Yahowah


Yada wrote:
DbY,

In the short term, I don't think so. And while I don't like the interruption of commercials, it is the price we have to pay to get this message on the satellites and on radio stations. But as an iTune podcast, you can probably fast forward through them.

Long term, I hope to have someone edit and post these archives as we are now attempting to do with the BTR archives, tying the audio to the written text of the books. We have several members of Yah's family devoting extensive time to this mission. I think this will turn out to be one of the most important things we accomplish together.

There is also going to be callers on GCN that will be distracting for those like you who have come to know Yah. But even the hostile callers should be helpful to those still searching.

The written and audio ITG is prime lamb for brothers like you, Dowd. I will not be able to duplicate its intensity with a mass audience. But, I am going to begin once a week on Friday evenings with a Scripture only study on BTR which will be interruption free. And the GCN experience may be short lived.

I've cc'd James on this so that he can post B's link and instructions in the Forum. Thank you, Dowd.

It wasn't until this afternoon that I began to feel somewhat comfortable about the GCN opportunity. Today for the first time I began to see the merit of doing this. While we will not grow nearly as much through it, we will introduce those who are lost to Yah. And that is worth doing.

YbY
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#391 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:54:46 AM(UTC)
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R wrote:
Is it possible to interpret the following as "God is One, there is nothing other than (or separate or apart from) God ? ..... ein od milvado

This would be similar to the Advaita Vedanta view "Everyting is Brahman (God) ....


"That they may know from the rising (mizrach - place of sunrise, east) and setting (ma’arab - place of sunset, west) sun (shemesh), that there is in the end nothing (‘epes - everything ultimately ceases) apart from Yahuweh. There is no other. (Isaiah 45:6) Everything ceases to exist without the One who caused everything to exist. I suppose that’s why His name means "I Exist.

I am reading a good book by Jay Michaelson called `Everything is God - the radical Path of Non-Dual Judaism`

http://www.luke1721.info...god-radical-path-of.html


Thanks,
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Yada wrote:
R,

Absolutely not. I would not say that "there is in the end nothing apart form Yahowah" is similar to "Everything is Brahman?" Brahman isn't Yahowah. The Advaita Vedanta isn't the Towrah. Knowing that there is just one God is only valuable if you know who that one God is. And knowing Yahowah is only valuable if you know how to engage in a relationship with Him.

According to Yahowah a god by any other name isn't god. According to Yahowah, all religions are false, including "the radical path of non-dual judaism."

Everything is not God.

What Yahowah is saying here is that without Him, you will cease to exist, as will the universe. So while Yah created the universe, He isn't the universe.

I have attached An Introduction to God for your consideration. If you read it, stay in touch.

You are searching, and that is good. But you won't find God in religious books.

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#392 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:00:08 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the quick reply Yada

Ok, Yes I know that God is YHVH and Non other..... I will read your attachment. I am trying to understand what God is ?

I imagined he is Spirit, unbounded and Infinite .... But I have found statements by people like Moses Cordovero and others a bit confusing ....


The essence of divinity is found in every single thing - nothing but it exists. Since it causes every thing to be, no thing can live by anything else. It enlivens them; its existence exists in each existent. Do not attribute duality to God. Let God be solely God. If you suppose that Ein Sof emanates until a certain point, and that from that
point on is outside of it, you have dualized. God forbid! Realize, rather, that Ein Sof exists in each existent. Do not say "This is a stone and not God." God forbid! Rather, all existence is God, and the
stone is a thing pervaded by divinity.
- Moses Cordovero, Shi'ur Qomah


Yada wrote:
The quote you have attached is absolutely wrong. I address this in the book. It renders God meaningless. It sounds a bit like Qaballah spiritualism.

Yahowah is spirit which He compares to light which is energy. I speak extensively about that in the attachment. It is extremely revealing. And in due time, during my Shattering myths show on gcnlive.com (http://www.gcnlive.com/programs/shatteringMyths/), I'll be discussing the correlation between light and God.

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#393 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:40:28 PM(UTC)
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Ok Thank you - your "Introduction to God" is excellent.

I have also studied the proto-Sinaitic (proto-aramaic) pictographs of the letters yud-heh-vav-heh, hand-behold-nail-behold

I was raised catholic but have learned that my ancient ancestors were ancient Jewish (Aramaic) converting to catholic (Converso/Crypto) in 1200's

I am very open mined and want to learn everything I can about YHWH.


Thanks Yada, I'll keep reading .....


Yada wrote:
R,

You remind me of my good friend and webmaster. He was raised a Catholic, but hated their hypocrisy. They were always unable to answer his questions. So he became an atheist. But he came to realize that it required too much faith. So he became a thinking agnostic. His father is Jewish.

As I was just starting to write Yada Yah (www.YadaYah.com), he and I invested countless hours disassociating Yahowah from religion, careful to consider what He actually had to say about Himself. Through this process, he came to know, understand, and embrace Yahowah on His terms. He may now know Yahowah better than I do. He had less to unlearn. And frankly, he's smarter than I am which helps.

He was also fascinated by the pictographs of Paleo Hebrew. The reveal so much to us that we would otherwise miss.

I sense that you are devoted to seeking Yahowah with an open mind. So you will be rewarded.

Please stay in touch.

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#394 Posted : Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:05:48 AM(UTC)
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R wrote:
" I have also studied the proto-Sinaitic (proto-aramaic) pictographs of the letters yud-heh-vav-heh, hand-behold-nail-behold"

More proof that Yahowah Himself is the Ma'aseyah.

Luke 24:39 John 20:25-27
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Yes, my family and "religious" mix is a little complicated......

My mother is Metis (Ojibwe/ Native American) so I have a Spiritual / pantheist influence....

And the Jewish roots was a bit of a surprise. I was doing some family Tree research on my Dad's Family name since he said his great grandfather (Southern Italy) was adopted. I couldn't go beyond the 1800's, so I ordered a Y-DNA Test from National Geographic Genographic Project for $99 .... the results came back as E1b1b1-a1b, same Haplogroup as Albert Einstein, and Samaritan Cohen .... I was surprised. I also had an exact match to the Saenz Family in Spain (Sephardic). I never heard the Borghese Family could be Jewish so I typed into Google "Borghese Jewish" and found the following Geneological reserach from Guy Stair Sainty : http://chivalricorders.org/nobility/nobjews.htm

..... which states the Borghese/Aldobrandini/Torlonia Family was ancient jewish converting to Catholic 800 years ago. This is interesting since Pope Paul V was Camillo Borghese, and is the Pope that Financed and completed construction of St Peters (The Vatican) in 1600's - Thought this was very strange but found a few articles including the Menorah Journal that stated Pope Paul V (Borghese) was one of six jewish popes. (Converso / Crypto)

Anyway, all this to say I became interested in Torah and jewish holy-days and history.

I'm an Architect, painter and Project Manager in real life ...


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R,

Hopefully, over time, you'll begin to see Yah apart from religion and race. But so long as a curiosity over these things is prompting you to consider His Towrah, that is a good thing.

There is no such thing as "Jewish holy-days." The Feasts are Yahowah's and they are for all of us to meet Him.

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Hello,

My name is C and I have called myself a Christian for the better part of 40 years. Recently I was a member of Calvary Chapel here in Rio Rancho, NM and I thought I had found my "church home". But inexplicably I was led away from this church by God's spirit I'm sure. I didn't really know what to do or why this had happened until I began reading Yada Yahweh and I realized that there was a whole new world that God wanted to show me.

I have been reading these websites and have noticed an evolution that God has wrought in a lot of people. The amount of knowledge of God is increasing exponentially as the time of the end approaches. I believe that we are very close to the return of Yahowsha and Yahowah is preparing those who are crying out for understanding.

There have been many many instances when I was teaching younger Christians where my studies would lead me to apparent contradictions and confusion to the point where I had to completely discount passages of scripture. I am so relieved to know that it was the Spirit who was gently nudging me away from the craziness that is the church today.

I thank God for this information and I know it is him doing it as I have received confirmation from his Spirit in the way that he has always confirmed things for me throughout my life as a believer, which I can't really explain by the way.

God bless you

C


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Hello C,

Welcome. It's nice being out of Babylon, isn't it? For those still mired in the muck and confusion of religion, the thought of walking away from their faith is frightening, and yet there is no better place than Yahowah's Covenant family.

As you may know, we just updated Yada Yah, making tens of thousands of edits based upon what we have learned. And we have just begun offering An Introduction to God online at www.IntroToGod.org. It contains a literal treasure of information regarding Yahowah, His Word, Name, Teaching, Covenant, Instructions, Invitations, and Way.

As you grow away from religion and toward a relationship with Yah, remain focused on His testimony - the Torah, Prophets, and Psalms. When you observe His testimony, closely examining and carefully considering it, you are in the best possible place for the Set-Apart Spirit to enrich, enlighten, and empower you.

Yahowsha's return will occur in Year 6000 Yah, on Yowm Kippurym, which is October 2nd, 2033. So it isn't very far away.

Yada

I hope that it is alright with you, but I'd like to anonymously share our discussion on my GCN radio show Shattering Myths. You are doing what we are encouraging others to do. And I think your words would inspire others.
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Dowd wrote:
Dear Yada ben Yahowah / Hi Yada,

What a relief the 'imperfect conjugation' has meant to a flawed individual like myself when considering the Three Statements and Seven Instructions Yahowah etched in stone with His own hand. I immediately thought of King Dowd's many flaws with the imperfect conjugation of these Instructions reinforcing the Family nature of the Covenant whereby Dowd, and we by our willing participation in the Covenant and its 5 requirements, are immortalised, perfected, adopted, enriched and empowered as sons and daughters of Yah, with Yah as our Father.

Yada wrote:
This was exactly my reaction, both regarding the personal relief and the understanding of how this all applied to Dowd. After that, I began to think about how the imperfect reflected the role of Dad in the Covenant relative to His children. So we embraced this the same way.


As our Father, He wants the best for us (His Covenant family), and while it is obvious He doesn't expect much, He is not waiting for us to make a mistake so as to punish us. As a Father, he allows us to make mistakes, knowing full well we will make them; yet as long as we turn around and do not make the mistakes habitual, we are not excluded from His Familial Covenant Relationship. That explains how Dowd could be a rascal in life yet still be adored by Yahowah as His favourite son. The relief is almost palpable. It takes all the pressure off us and we can now engage Yahowah on a very personal level as our Father.

Yada wrote:
Exactly. In fact, now that I'm nearing the completion of the rewrite of this section, I may plagiarize your comments for the book. You can collect your royalty payment from the Boss next time we meet with Him.


While thankful for the 'imperfect conjugation', I am curious to know and understand what the conjugations, moods and stems look like in written form. How do you recognise them in a Hebrew passage? What form do they take so that we may recognise them in in our translations?

Yada wrote:
They are conveyed via prefixes and suffixes to the Hebrew verbs, just as are stems, moods, conjunctions, articles, and pronouns. Each is conveyed using an additional letter. They are almost universally ignored in English translations.


The Sabbath show, 'The Way', began with you discussing Yahowah taking Abraham to a Set-Apart place and there, looking up at the stars relating the Covenant promises to Abraham to be immortalised, perfected, adopted,enriched and empowered, to the immortal nature of light emanating from the stars. Abraham understood what Yahowah was showing him.

Yada wrote:
That statement has become one of my personal favorites. It really resonates with me.

I think Abraham was a lot like you and me. We grow with Yahowah and come to understand bits and pieces at a time. It is a learning experience. There are times when he just didn't get it. And at other times, he seemed to understand.


It amazes me that "Christians" cling to their caricature of "JC" when careful observation of the eye witness accounts would show them the changed nature of their "LORD" on First Fruits rendering the Pauline claim of bodily resurrection entirely false to any rational individual. Out of interest in this changed nature, I was researching 'E= mc2' last week and found this formula describing the reduction in energy required to convert light energy back into matter. If E=mc2
then M=e/c2

Yada wrote:
Correct on all accounts. These revelations have become very important to me. More than anything, this formula reveals the relationship between Yahowah and Yahowsha', and also how we will be empowered.


On matters GCN, I am enjoying the archived shows. I participated in the Skype family discussion during the first 3 shows and listened along with the family. The 2am starts proved too difficult to sustain so it will be every now and again that I listen live. Traction with a listening audience other than those migrating from BTR will take time but word will spread and callers will come. Either way you are where you need to be.

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Thank you. I read those Skype sessions and was thrilled to see you there.

During the past 4 shows we have had 7 callers. All have contributed a great deal to the program. I really like my producer. I'm hopeful that the show will gain traction and prevail.



The Sabbath show was a wonderful respite from ads into a format where you are more comfortable. You are comfortable because your listening family are familiar with and understand subjects of a more advanced nature than you could possibly share on the GCN network at this early stage. I want to thank you for making the time to prepare a BTR radio show for the Sabbath.

May Yahowah bless your GCN efforts Yada,

Dowd ben Yahowah

Yada wrote:
Thanks Dowd. Yes, I'm much more comfortable with family on YYR with BTR. I grow and learn through those shows. They provide a net gain of energy, while the GCN shows are work and are draining. But there is value in both. They serve different purposes, both of which are important.

I'll post the revised ITG section on the Instructions tomorrow at www.IntroToGod.org.


I appreciate our friendship.

Yada ben Yahowah.
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D wrote:

Hey Yada,

D in South Korea. Loving the show! Wanted to let you know that I download and listen to your show directly after starting the coffee pot in the morning. I just stopped peppering your email with annoying emails is all. :)

I still want to call-in but I keep falling asleep .. ha! .. but I can see that I'm not needed anyway, you have some of the best callers I've ever heard on talk radio. It's like listening to two college professors debate.

I have an agnostic question for you: If we allow the super-natural into our discourse, like "holy books" or predictions of the future by a god, then doesn't any super-natural explanation work? For instance, why can't I just say "Satan made the Torah to trick us into believing him." How can that statement be disproved if we allow unknowable factors into the discussion in the first place? This is the reason I've avoided all religious debate in the first place. The parameters of the discussion allow for unprovable statements to be assumed as fact.

The BIG question is: If I go to Heaven and meet a being who claims to be Yahwah, should I check his ID? And .. Is a New Jersey drivers license enough for a supreme being or does He require two forms?

Have a great day...


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Hi Dan,

I'm glad that you are listening and I hope that you are still reading. And yes, I hope that you call in to the show at some point.

I concur with you regarding the quality of the callers. I've been very pleasantly surprised.

Satan doesn't do prophecy. And false gods are, well false. So when it comes to consistently accurate prophecy there is only one source: the Towrah, Prophets, and Psalms and Yahowsha's citations of them. So there is no basis for what would otherwise seem like a very rational hypothesis.

Also, the profound nature of Yah's testimony exceeds our comprehension. It is unlike anything man has written. It is on a completely different level than Paul's or Muhammad's, Smith's or Hubbard's, "scriptures" for example.

You'll know Him.

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L wrote:
Dear Brother,

I have had us ladies change course from the beginning of ITG to Passover/Unleavened Bread/First Fruits and then plan on moving forward through the rest of the Feast/Meetings you have written out. We have run into question's and looking for clarity and what ever house cleaning may be needed as to old "Christian" understandings.

Yada wrote:
The ITG and YY are complementary. The ITG presents a foundation, the Towrah, the Covenant, and the Instructions better than YY, while YY is better on the Miqra'ey and on Salvation.


Scripture (Torah) and your writings tell us to keep the Feast's and to meet with God. Yet Scripture seams to also say how say Passover is to be done from the unblemished lamb/herbs and blood on the door post to God choosing where, when and how to meet and once in the "Land", to meet at the Temple in Jerusalem where he has HIS name ONLY!

Yada wrote:
Yah wrote His name on you, so wherever you are is fine. Most of the Miqra'ey come with specific instructions, so Passover is like the rest of them in this way. Also, never loose site of the fact that the seven Miqra'ey exist to be observed, to be known, to be understood, to be accepted and acted upon. It is more about embracing what they represent than it is about doing them in a specific way. The specifics are all there to teach us something about Yahowah and His Covenant, not to turn us into religious robots.


Well of course most of us couldn't do any of these things now so. Is it that Yahowsha was the last and only required lamb, we are now the Temple and being followers of the Way/Torah we have His Name? Therefore we do Passover as in Remembrance. The other feast in honor and in anticipation to there completion and where we meet with Yahowah (two or three gathered in his name) Shabbat, High Shabbat, etc,. to recite, observe, study, trust and rely on His blessing and empowerment.
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Yahowsha' is the perfect lamb, and that is the realization of Passover. But still, in remembrance of what Yahowah did, eat lamb and unleavened bread with bitter herbs on this day, grateful for the promise of the Covenant.


Are we to be baptized and can women do this (baptize) each other? One of the ladies this last meeting made a comment (she was fishing for answer as to if she has sinned). She said: " I sinned this morning, I had a piece of toast". I let it slide for the moment because I am not clear on those things either. I feel many times things are NO longer to be taken so literally, but more in a Spiritual since. To understand what Unleavened Bread represents is more important than if you ate toast, our made your bed, or dumped the trash on Sabbath. I sure miss my BLT's. hee, hee.

Yada wrote:
I'm not a proponent of water baptism, other than as a symbolic sign that you understand what it means to be reborn on FirstFruits.

There is noting wrong with toast unless it has yeast and is consumed during Passover and Unleavened Bread. And yes, your answer was correct.



Then again, God killed people for doing those things??? How can we KNOW what applies now? Yahowsha said it was important what came out of, not what went into, but then He was a Jew and had no ? about his diet, etc. Seams such a small thing yet dose ones soul's destiny hinges on these?

Yada wrote:
The best answer is that all of the learning that can be derived from the specific instructions applies. If you were to invest 100% of your time to learning and responding to what you are learning and 0% trying to do, and thus obey, Yah's instructions as if they were rules you'll be fine.


There another thing that seams to be happening to me that has me in tears. It is hard to put into words, in some way I feel removed from the connection to "Family and Friends" now that I have shared (in some cases more than the second mile so to speak) my discoveries on pagan christianity etc,. And my growing love for Yah and His Torah, I seam to have less patients with them and It feels kind of like shaking the dust from my sandals, though walking away with a heavy heart and tears. I don't feel the urgency like I used to have as a christian to "get them saved", only the love/duty to share. Yet when I feel prompted or see an opportunity to share with anyone family or stranger, I have been fearless. Is this normal or is the enemy playing with my head?

Yada wrote:
We are all in this same place, distancing ourselves from family and friends, all to celebrate our relationship with Yah. And over time, we all grow to realize that we cannot save those who aren't willing to reject their religion first, so we stop worrying about them. What you are experiencing is exactly what Yahowah and Yahowsha' told us to expect. So, continue to share with those willing to listen.


Tell us, what about prayer? If there is no Obey then what word belongs in it's place because it is in the Scriptures a lot? What about worship as well?

Yada wrote:
The word changed to obey is shama'. It means "listen." Prayer isn't mentioned anywhere in the Towrah. So it isn't important. All Yah wants is for us to listen to Him by observing His Word and then respond. Simple.


I want to add them and songs to our Sabbath Meetings, is that OK with Father, David sang and wrote song's of love and praise, his prayers were they prayers that ended in yah's name or conversations as I now have with Father??

Yada wrote:
Songs are good so long as the lyrics are consistent with Yah's teaching. There are many on YouTube.


P.S. I really enjoy your Friday evening program! I listen to Genesis but do like this one the best, thank you. I us it as homework for our group, its hard sometime with these ladies (children). ooooo

Thank you,
LRK

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I like the Friday show much better too.
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J wrote:
Now that I doubt the accuracy and anointing of the Bible, what do I read that is accurate and will lead me to Yahowah? Where can I find it?

What is it called?

How do I study it? Will it be in English?

I love my Bible and must have a replacement that is acceptable to God.

Am suffering persecution from my husband over my new knowledge of the deception of all the theology I have learned.

Sincerely,
J


Yada wrote:
J,

It's good that you doubt the accuracy of you "bible" because it is inaccurate. That is a statement of fact. In the attached Introduction to God (also available at www.IntroToGod.org) I have provided you with the tools you will need to search and study Yahowah's Word on your own. It is written in English and it will give you a solid foundation and a good head start.

Yahowah's testimony is called the Towrah, Prophets, and Psalms (Writings).

I'm sorry that your husband is persecuting you. But to walk to Yahowah most of us have had to walk away from the harassing and oppressing nature of men and their religious and political schemes. You are not alone.

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