Its something I have been wrestling with Yada...

HOW do we tell people, because there is sooo much deception and "end of the world" cults about that as a minority thats what we would be viewed as... 50 years ago we might have been able to get a following from preaching on the street or dropping information through doors, but people are more cinical and wary now because of everything that is going on.

The only way I can see us being useful is if Yah comes and does it with us. Then we will beable to go where He leads and be Him to the people... we are crap on our own no matter how great the argument, but if we are able to walk out there with Yah - as the apostles did, like moses had when He came down from the mountain, THEN we could show that there is something different. Instead of meeting some crazy loon on the street, people would have to deal with Yah. Thats harder to dismiss, although it still will be, but then people will get a real choice.

Thats my personal thoughts on it at the moment :) So much to do, so little time.

I know what you mean. Many Christians are aware of the end times and understand the future events in a Left Behind level teaching ut at least trust at some level God is in control. I've found at least some interest among these in considering Future History with most being intimidated by the size of the work. I'm hoping that having this on audio will help and pray that this out reach will create a thrist to Yada Yahuweh.

Among the secular world here in the US it seems that the most talked about future apocolyopse given attention to is not even Islamic terror, rather Man-Made Global Warming. Talk about the sky falling. With 9-11-2001 becoming increasingly distant in memory and I trust an eventual realization that Global Warming is not occuring as projected prehaps eyes will be openned to what is truly going on.

One thing that drives me nuts is this Big Brother feeling of the eyes of Pollitical Correctness watching us. It's like as if we need to tread lightly, especially with those always around us, our friends, families and work mates. Crazy! I just want to shout it out but PC is drowning us out.

Amazing! There are actually Americans here that remember history and think that other Americans should remember history! In a world bent on self-destruction, people rather recall inane trivia about Paris Hilton's immodesty bouts or Lindsay Lohan's sorry affections and whether boy bands will return to flavour of the month. Let's see... the rag mags out there yell for attention showcasing shiny psychedelic covers, the boob tube blasts bad news tempered with unabashed hope sprinkled with a litany of political correctness, the web wages war on God-worshippers while peddling porn profusely, newspapers pretend that not all is lost as long as we have the human spirit and they can sell their soul pages for advertising moolah, and we have politicians pleading past positions as potential possibilities piddling down to racist propaganda... especially in my part of the world where the ex-prime minister continues to espouse racist idealogies akin to apartheid and nobody significant seems to want to correct him... Yep, the world sure is an exciting place to live in today...

I recently phoned a nationwide, (and Canadian), nightly, (Mon-Fri), radio broadcast. The "What's Right, What's Left, Voice of the Christian Resistance" radio show hosted by Pastor Ernie Sanders. He's a KJV prototypical Christian religionists. I gave him the whole story. Yah's miqria, Daniel's 70 weeks of years, Hosea's Chap 6:1-2, the Psalmists/Peter "one days is as a thousand years" passage, explained KP's gap theory, (which is not a theory as far as I'm concerned). He tried to cut me off at mid point and again at a commercial break. To his credit he allowed me to continue my point after the break, allbeit with heavey sighs in the mic which is his way of telling his auduence that he's less than enthralled. After my epistle, hahaha, he deems all my points "wrong". He interpreted Pauls advice to the Thessalonians as not to be concerned with the timing of "End Times" events. By this time he'd hung up the phone and I was unable to respond to his reply. Probably would've done no good anyway.

I've listened to this fella for years and his show has been on air for nearly 30, all listener sponsored. I've a high regard for him as he's done much good in the Right to Life arena as well as his death row ministry. However, I've noticed a pronounced hostility to YY by the WR,WL ministry. YY was deemed heretical, (which actually it is), "the guy, (Yada), is an evolutionist, profane, and has no respect for the christian religion". Except for the profane part, this is actually correct figuring DNA partitioning to be micro-evolution.
So the point to all of this is, once again, "they will not believe even though one were to rise from the dead."

That's about the funniest thing I've ever read. Up is down, black is white, and words mean nothing. (1) By saying Yada is an evolutionist, he's actually saying, "Winn doesn't believe that the universe was created in 6,000 years. He therefore MUST believe in undirected Darwinian-style evolutionary theory." He can't see the falacy in his own argument. But if you get into what the Hebrew words really mean, as Yada has, you discover that Yahweh "created" things (i.e., "out of nothing") very sporadically. The real data of the earth's history appears to be just as Genesis presented it: different basic life forms were formed by God and introduced at various stages, as the earth became ready to support them. Within these "kinds" (as its worded in the KJV) they were free to "evolve"---which only means that there is wiggle room in the DNA, in the genome Yahweh created for each life form He introduced, but only within strict limits. If that's "evolution," then I'm the Sultan of Brunei.

(2) Profane? He must be using a different dictionary than the rest of us. Let's see...Ah. Here it is: "Profane, adj. Spiritually astute, dedicated to disseminating Yahweh's truth with boldness and courage; gifted with insight."

(3) No respect for the Christian religion? Well, okay, one out of three ain't bad. Yada, of course, has respect only for the God whom the "Christian religion" claims to worship, but whose Word they pervert at every turn. The real question is, "Why can't Ernie Sanders see that 'respecting the Christian religion'---in lieu of fostering a relationship with Yahweh---is a bad thing?"

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What Sanders said about Yada reminds me that there are 2 types of people visiting YY. Those who are earnestly seeking the Truth about their Creator and are willing to forget what they've learned and open up to the Truth in his word... and those who look to defend their religion and what they have already been taught. My prayer is again that Yah will take the blinders off more people so they seek Truth. Even if they disagree at first, let them search the original meanings for themselves, let them come on the forum and debate us.. when I came to YY I was seeking to know Yahweh, not to form an opinion about the commentary but to learn more about the Truth from the One who inspired the scriptures. It's not important if we agree w/ anything Yada or any man says, it's only important that we know the Truth about Yahweh. It's hard to swallow for most people but if we ask Yahweh to reveal Himself, that's exactly what He does. He doesn't tell us what we want to hear - just the Truth. He is amazing and I'm glad I can interact w/ people who's highest priority is to know Him.

My radio presentation concerning Yah's Miqra etc., (and the resulting "it's wrong" judgement), was recent, the negative comments concerning YY and Yada were not. That event actually occurred in late summer/early fall of '06 shortly after I'd discovered YY on the web. The very instant I'd discovered YY I just KNEW it was true, and this after christian propagandizing for the first 18 years of my life, (I grew up a Nazarene, it didn't really take).
I'd listened to Sanders for several years and thought he was the man. So I figured he'd be interested in YY. The night I called, (in '06), was a Monday. That's his pro-life night when he's accompanied by his assistant pastor Dale Henkle. Henkle is an extraordinary biblical technician. He can cite most any chap and verse from memory. He is also somewhat of a spark plug which is probably a necessity as he posts abortuaries full time around the country as well as sodomite parades. Not surprisingly, he endures much abuse at the hands of the baby killers, police depts, (who are invariably on the take from the abortionists), and the boyfriends of the young girls, (many if not most are underaged), who are frequently forced to kill their babies by their boy friends who want to avoid child support payments.
Since I'd previously called from time to time they, (Henkle/Sanders), knew me, plus I'd also sent him 100 bucks on one occasion. I asked Henkle if he'd check out YY which he did. He was on the phone to the radio show the following night. It was then that YY/Yada was deemed heretical, etc. Another listener phoned in and said YY was a "cult" which I found rather odd since YY neither solicits money, promotes a religion nor a religious cleric/personailty.
This was my first effort at promoting, for lack of a better word, the YY thesis. Every effort so far has met with similar results. Of course this merely stiffens my resolve.

Nearly a year ago I phoned Sanders' radio broadcast and began explaining to him what "the Lord" actually meant. Naturally this didn't fly as the "the Lord" is probably his fav expression. He apparently ruminated on this for a few days as he addressed the issue again a few nights later. He cited a passage, forget which one, supporting his position and then said that "this will answer those who are obsessed with the word Yahweh". When I heard what he'd said I knew he was in trouble as he disparaged and attempted to diminish the personal and proper name of our Creator by relegating respect and reverence for His name to a psychiatric condition.

Yah knows diminish.

After 30+ years of 3 hours per night, 5 nights per week, Sanders' lost one hour of time the following night and another half hour the next night. He's never recovered his lost time, (50% of his broadcast), and has been scrambling for funds to keep his remaining time ever since.

Coincidence? If you say so...

Hi Icy,
I thought I'd do the Nathan routine and wait a year, (did'nt Nathan wait a year before confronting David regarding Bathsheeba and her by then dead, in effect murdered, hubby?).
At any rate, I've since dumped my phone.