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Offline Devildog  
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:03:08 AM(UTC)
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Below is a link to the story. It is a few days old but it confirms why we don't stand a chance. Political correctness, and our seemingly willing ignorance, will be(is) our demise. The story, in a nut shell, is that Stephen Coughlin, the Pentagon specialist on Islam, has been fired from his position on the Joint Staff. Not that we should worry or anything but within the office of Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England, a key aide to Mr. England is Hasham Islam. Well, Mr. Islam didn't care too much for truth getting out so he confronted Mr. Coughlin during a meeting several weeks ago when Mr. Islam sought to have Mr. Coughlin soften his views. In typical Islamic fashion, the Muslim lied, called Mr. Coughlin a few names(christian zealot) and complained enough to get the guy fired.
It's disgusting and fascinating all at the same time for me to witness the death of the United States.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20080104/NATION04/410150204
Offline real  
#2 Posted : Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:21:48 PM(UTC)
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Once again we seem to be our own worst enemy here. I am amazed that P. C. has taken hold to this degree . I remeber during 911 that two arabs were caught on a train in texas with 5000 dollars cash fake ID's and disguises as well however they were turned loose after some genius decided there was no evidence ....I repeat no evidence they were up to no good. wow In their own country they would have been tortured and killed but not here were the rule of law trumps all including basic reason. I read a peice from C.W. where he said he had given up on the idea that this nation would or even could save itself and now it is really an individual endevor. That is correct....completly correct!
Offline bitnet  
#3 Posted : Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:13:15 PM(UTC)
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When you live a lie deep enough, you do all you can to protect that lie. It's the sickness of this world, having been lied to, and invested everything in lies. Yada is right, there is no turning back. It happened when pride filled the nations after WWII, and the USA from a position of power started to dictate things to the world, and colluded with the oppression on Israel thus earning further reprobation from The Eternal.
The reverence of Yahweh is the beginning of Wisdom.
Offline kp  
#4 Posted : Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:28:03 PM(UTC)
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It sucks to be an American watching America go down the drain. I'm sure the same thing could be said for many nations. But it all just underscores what Yahweh has told us all along: we are to be set apart, we are to be called out, we are to live as pilgrims in this world. Our real citizenship is in another Country altogether. Yes, for the time being, we must sojourn here in (...fill in the blank). Paul was a "Roman citizen." But Rome wasn't home.

kp
Offline real  
#5 Posted : Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:17:36 PM(UTC)
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Joseph stood the two children in front of Israel so that when Israel stretched out his right hand it would be on Manasseh's head, the eldest. "And Israel stretched out his right hand and laid it upon Ephraims head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh's head, guiding his hands wittingly for Manasseh was the first born". GEN.48:14. Notice that the Lord would have to intervene and have Israel cross his arms so that his right hand is on the younger child. Israel blessed Joseph and the two children, Verse 15,16. "and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth" verse 16. NOW Joseph notices that Israel has crossed his arms and his right hand is on Ephraims head instead of head of Manasseh, and he tries to remove it, Verse 17,18. "and his father refused, and said, I know it, my son I know it; he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations. And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh; and set Ephraim before Manasseh" .GEN.48.19,20. This is really really important in that you must understand it's full meaning.

When Israel blessed the two boys, Ephraim the younger, will mature into a nation first, powerful, rich, and abundant, and will control many places, the gateways of his enemy's, but Manasseh the elder will be a multitude or company of nations, and will be even richer and more powerful. This company of nations are a tightly knit group, and when combined make a very powerful nation. Ephraim develops ahead of Manasseh. In effect Israel adopted the two boys so the birthright passed to both of them, and also the name Israel, forever. It also binds the two of them together as friends, for the most part thinking and acting in the same general direction most times. You should have noticed that the name Israel was given to these two boys and NOT to the Judah tribe, most important. As we go on and identify these two nations you will see that this binding is still in effect even today.

You will see later that the name of Israel in use today is also a hidden key or doorway, that is designed to hide information until the latter days. This confuses many millions of people today, but should be very plain to you if you read the text in your Bible. Also notice that none of the other tribes will receive the blessings of nation or multitude. I hope this is very clear, because you will need it in the future.

"And Israel said unto Joseph, Behold, I die: but God shall be with you, and bring you again unto the land of your fathers. Moreover I have given to thee one portion above thy brethren, which I took out of the hand of the Amorite with my sword and with my bow". GEN.48:21,22. So Israel blesses Joseph and gives him twice what his other brothers receive. As I name these two countries you will see that it probably is far more than twice. Also notice that Israel shall return to the home land sometime in the future. This means that they must leave in order to return. The Jews, or the nation of Judah, have NEVER left there homeland, except for a 70 year time period, while at this same time period, there were NO Israelites present. Only Israel was captured and taken away, to a foreign land and have not returned yet. "And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days".GEN.49:1.

There blessings then, are FOR NOW this very time period. Each tribe is blessed, some better than others and in verse 2 of Chapter 49 it states they will all be part of Israel. Verses 3 to 28 are the actual blessings and I will let you read them. Notice that in Verses 8 to 12, is the blessings of tribe of Judah and that they are to look after the scripture. The Jews have looked after the scripture (the old Testament) for many centuries. Judah receives nothing else. All the power, money, land, fruit, cattle and might goes to Israel the tribes other than Judah , NOT to the Jewish tribes. Also notice the name Israel may be used by any of the 12 tribes, but belongs to the 2 boys, Ephraim and Manasseh, 2 separate nations. Let my name be on them GEN.48:16. So all the money, power, riches, passes to the descendant's of these two boys, in a distant land, not to the Jews. I really have to emphasize this, The Nation of Israel (or the lost 10 tribes), are not Jewish, and were removed from Israel. The House of Judah, the three Jewish tribes did NOT leave, although they also were defeated. Please remember that, the 3 Jewish tribes NEVER left the Palestine area, only the 10 tribes were taken away. Yes 10 and 3 make 13, but the Levites were then and are yet today the Holy people for all the tribes, but had no land. They lived very well off the tithe or the 10% donation from each of the other tribes. They kind of represent all the tribes, but Jacob splits his name into 2,..... Ephraim and Manasseh, which do not materialize for many centuries.

The descendants of Abraham remained united until into the Book of Kings. They would all at this timebe , Jewish in religion and each of the tribes being part of the Israelite group. I.KINGS.12:16 a split occurred with King Rehoboam. This also split the religion. Benjamin remained with Judah and retained the Jewish religion and continue on as Israelites. The other tribes carried out the appearance of the Jewish religion but with dates and sacrifices changed (I.KINGS.16:17-33) were no longer Jewish but do continue on as Israelites. These tribes become the bases of todays Christians
Offline gammafighter  
#6 Posted : Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:53:09 PM(UTC)
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From what I can gather on that story, Coughlin wants to kill the extremists and England and Islam want to host tea parties for them. While it sounds good to try to work things out by diplomacy, they don't seem to understand that an "Extremist Support Network" isn't going to work. Their culture is based on murder. They believe that to kill is divine and to abstain is a sin. Tea parties ain't gonna cut it Mr. England.

It must be nice for the extremists though- it must be nice to know that your people have a friend or two in Washington. Not that I would know...
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