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Quote: The true account of El`azar and the rich man was no parable And it is overused by Christians against JW's, SDA's, and "Sacred name" groups, and they don't even realize that 'Avraham was also in Sh'ówl when they use it!
'El`âzâ´ r and the Rich man And there was a certain rich man, and he was clothed in purple and buwts [`Ivríyth: white linen], celebrating daily in splendor. And there was a certain beggar named 'El`âzâ´r, who lay strewed before his doorway, being full of ulcers, And he was desiring to be filled from the crumbs that fell from the table of the rich man, instead, even the dogs, coming, licked clean his ulcers. And it came to pass, the beggar died, and he was carried off by the envoys into the lap of 'Avrâhâ´m (in Sh'ówl) [Compare Yownâ´h 2: 2]. And the rich one died also, and was buried. Then having raised up his eyes within Sh'ówl, coming to be in the bottom, he sees 'Avrâhâ´m afar off, and 'El`âzâ´r within his lap. Be cool, acknowledge Him!
And he, calling out, said:
“Father 'Avrâhâ´m, be compassionate to me, and send 'El`âzâ´r, in order that he might dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in intense pain within this blaze.”
But 'Avrâhâ´m said:
“My son, recollect that you received in full your good things during your lifetime, and 'El`âzâ´r similarly the bad things; but now look, he is consoled, but you are in intense pain. And on top of all these things, a great chasm has been set fast between us and you, such that those who wish to cross from here towards you are unable, nor those from there can cross towards us.”
And he said to him:
“Then I beg you, my father, that you might send him unto the house of my father, For I have five brothers, so that he might earnestly testify to them in order that they may not also come unto this place at the bottom!”
'Avrâhâ´m says to him: “They have the scrolls of Moshéh and the Predicators: let them heed them.” But he said: “No, father 'Avrâhâ´m, rather, if one from the dead might traverse towards them, they will repent! ” And he said to him: “If they do not heed Moshéh and the Predicators, they will not be persuaded even if One might rise from the dead. ”” [Luwqá' 16:19-31]
This passage on 'El`azar and the rich man is never said to be merely a parable. Moreover, in no parable does He give specific names for people, as He does in this historical account. Furthermore, there is no allegorical parallel which this account might apply to.
Most JW's, SDA's, and "sacred name" groups work hard to deny all these scriptures. Christians also work very hard to deny these scriptures and promote their rapture to heaven illusion, because they do not want to face their judgment. No one should deny scripture, everyone should accept it!
Some try to allege it isn't even part of the original scripture. Even if it weren't, other scriptures make this clear. However, it is found in the Aramaic texts. Others then say that when the rich man "lifted up his eyes" it refers to him resurrecting. The first resurrection hasn't happened yet, if such were the case, his five brothers must be extremely old by now, since they hadn't died!
Yâhuwshúa` is the One who rose from the dead who the hardened yet do not believe in.
This describes Sh'ówl as being a place with more than one area, yet within sight of each other. It does not mention that 'Avraham also is in Sh'ówl, but that is where Ya`aqov said he was going [Genesis 37:35], and it is certainly not the same area as the rich man. Therefore they were in the Paradise part of Sh'ówl.
Quote from Sh'ówl ("Sheol", "Seol") - Hell or the Grave, or Paradise?
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