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Offline Sheraldo  
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2019 11:46:23 AM(UTC)
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Hey All,

Can you help me out? I was listening to one of the Shabbat blog talks and heard Yada say that Sodom and Gomorrah had nothing to do with sex because of the word I believe, Yada. He went on to say, and correct me if I am wrong, that God doesn't really care about homosexuality? As long as you don't promote it? Also, is there a better meaning for the verses in Lev 18:22 about man laying with man being an abomination? Can a homosexual be in the Covenant Family?

I have a friend in town who has a daughter that came out gay and it has been such a struggle for him. He loves his daughter more than he loves what the evangelicals are preaching. I think this would be amazing news to share with him since he has now left the church yet still wants to know YHWH.

Thanks for your help if you can make sure I heard correctly.

Sheryl
Offline Bubsy  
#2 Posted : Friday, June 7, 2019 1:42:18 PM(UTC)
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Yahowah does make clear that He views a man lying with another man, as a man usually lies with a woman - what we call homosexuality today, as an abomination. That means He finds it thoroughly disgusting, and will not allow it into His eternal home. However, it does NOT mean that those who practice it are automatically condemned to She'owl, a.k.a. "Hell", as certain religious people would have everyone believe. Perhaps someone with homosexual tendencies could abandon the lifestyle and set himself apart from it, and become part of the Covenant Family. But it seems amply clear that a practicing homosexual will definitely be excluded.
Ha Shem? I'm kind of fond of Ha Shemp, Ha Larry, and Ha Moe myself. And the earlier shorts with Ha Curly.
Offline MadDog  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2019 10:21:07 AM(UTC)
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If you press Yada for an answer he will say that Yah does not approve of homosexuality.
Why? Because it corrupts Yah's intent for a Covenant family.

Yah states that those who engage in homosexuality will die (i.e. not live). Lev. 20:13

The act itself won't condemn anyone to hellfire, but it also won't save you either.

Yada likes to point out that homosexuality didn't make it unto the two stone tablets (but adultery
did) which is what I think Yada means by Yah not caring about the homosexual lifestyle because it
didn't end up on the two stone tablets he wrote with his own finger.

But neither did pedophilia or bestiality.

And as far as "As long as you don't promote it?" that's just Yada's opinion not Yahs. Yah never
says "As long as you don't promote it."

I don't see how an active homosexual can be covenant any more than an active christian
or mooooooooslime can be covenant.

Overall, You should base your judgement on what Yah has to say and with all due respect
to Yada not what he says or feels about it.

http://anintroductiontog...-Mitswah-His_Terms.Torah

Again, before we press on, I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention the fact that it was adultery, not homosexuality, that was addressed here. That is not to say that God is supportive of homosexual behavior; He isn’t. But it is to say that adultery is of far greater concern to Him. Christians, encapsulated in Pauline Doctrine, are prone to view homosexuality more harshly than adultery, and therefore lash out at homosexuals while ignoring their own behavior. In so doing, they miss the message God is conveying.
Offline Sheraldo  
#4 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2019 12:51:31 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Busby and MadDog for responding. Just came in here to look around for anything new and was happy to see your responses. Makes sense!

Thank you and Shabat Shalom!

Sheryl
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