JamesH,
Is there a specific point you are trying to make? Are you questioning whether Yahowsha came at all? Are you questioning if Yahowsha found in the xthian "NT" is the same one spoken of in the torah? A think a more forward "I feel he didn't come and here are the scriptures I am using to back that up" or a "hey guys, I am struggling with this because this translations seem to be lacking". The way this thread is going now it almost seems a bit leading, like you are trying to move people to speak a certain point.
I can say that for a few weeks I struggled with Yahowsha'. I desperately wanted something other than a completely flawed xthian "NT" to hold on to. I was angry that we can have texts of events that happened thousands of years before Yahowsha' , all the way to Adam and the creation of earth, and yet I couldn't get a simple confirmation of events that were the most significant thing to happen since Yahowah came into covenant relationship with Abraham! I still constantly struggle with what did He say and what did He not say. I get angry and honestly avoid much of the "NT" altogether most of the time. In fact, I use it mostly to discredit Paul with his crazy babbling.
What I had to come to terms with was not the reliable nature of the xthian "NT", but the reliable nature of the prophecies being fulfilled the way Yahowah said they would be. Yahowah said there would be an unblemished Lamb that would provide the door for me to have access to a familial relationship with Him. I can trust that He provided that Lamb. I don't trust from "faith", but from seeing that the other prophecies of Yahowah were reliable, I don't think He would fail in the middle of the game. The world is also looking quite close to where Jeremiah's and John's (Revelation) visions said it would look and what would happen before the return of Yahowsha'. So, again it's looking pretty good for Yahowah's ability to predict future history.
What I had to do was simply look at Yahowsha' as a useful implement. I don't have to understand all the nuance of His existence. The same is true for the Sept Apart Spirit, I don't understand all the nuance of Her existence either. However, I trust the reliability of Yahowah and accept the relationship He determined the Set Apart Spirit would play in my life - that of Spiritual Mother, covering, the One who allows me to appear perfect before Yahowah. In fact, its funny that we all concentrate so much of Yahowsha' when our "relationship" status is so much more dependent on the Set Apart Spirit. Yahowsha' is the door and He thankfully fulfilled what was needed to be done for Passover, Unleavened Bread, and First Fruit. It matters not if He is actually consistent with the portrait painted in the xthian NT . That doorway is open to anyone and everyone that chooses to partake - but it's a door. Why argue, fret, fight, and in the way of xthians - worship a doorway? It's funny, Yahowah in His 10 Words (or commandments or however we are supposed to talk about those 10 things we all learned wrong all our religious lives) He even spoke of honoring our Father and our Mother. He told us the relationships we needed to attend to, nourish, and get right - the relationship with Him as Father and with the Set Apart Spirit as our covering, our Spiritual Mother.
Maybe that is why there is so little we can glean from the xthian NT on Yahowsha' - understanding Him isn't enough to have a relationship with Yahowah. I have seen the result of a focus on "Jesus" as a xthian - people begin to worship, praise, honor, pray to, focus on, rely on, and love to the point of hating Yahowah the Implement. The other times Yahowsha' came to earth, those times in the torah (I believe there were 5 times) it wasn't a big deal. People didn't get so caught up that they turned from Yahowah. It seems they better understood the connection - that when Yahowah needed to do something in this earth, have a face-to-face conversation and feast with man - who you had an encounter with was going to be Yahowsha'. That was all of Yahowah man could handle without the consequence of immediate destruction. For Passover, something needed to be done on this earth to accomplish it. Yahowah, being consistent, was going to spend Yahowsha' again. He told us the route Yahowsha would take (seed of a woman, kind and priest, etc., etc., etc.).
Again, I get the uncertainty and anger with the xthian NT. I get the frustration with not being to verify certain aspects and translation errors and all of that. I absolutely get it. But, if there is a certain point you want to push out - just push it out and let people respond to that instead of the nudging, pushing, and innuendo. It feels a bit awkward and doesn't flow with the way we normally discuss topics head on.