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Offline Daniel  
#1 Posted : Saturday, May 28, 2011 11:02:35 AM(UTC)
Daniel
Joined: 10/24/2010(UTC)
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Protest Movements

I joyfully trusted Jesus as my Redeemer at youth camp in 1959, and am forever grateful to the church for explaining the plan of salvation to me.

I also learned that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah for the whole world at our evangelical church in Miami, Florida, in the early 1960s. Our pastors taught us to respect the Hebrew Christians among us, and support the new State of Israel. We loved Israel, and welcomed Jewish believers into the congregation.

It was the mid-sixties when many Americans of different ethnicities demonstrated in the streets for their civil rights. Native Americans asserted their claims against the US government for reparations because of wrongs done against their people. Black Americans raged against the immorality of slavery. The sterling history of my beloved country has some tarnish that is difficult to overlook or remove.

Martin Luther King, Jr. and Billy Graham dominated the American religious scene. Dr. King would never have tolerated Billy Graham demanding black people leave their customs behind in order to become part of mainstream Christianity. Yet both leaders asked this of Jewish people who believed in Jesus. Christians expected Jewish believers to give up their traditions, and become gentiles.

Although Jewish people marched in solidarity with Black Americans and Native Americans in the 1960s, Jewish believers in Jesus did not join any protest movements against the Church.

I did not join any protest movements then either, but after reading Western history in greater depth, and observing current events on the world stage, I must protest now.


There is a horrible injustice that has a much longer history than the atrocious treatment of Native Americans, or of African slaves brought to the Americas against their will. It is the deliberate mistreatment of the Jewish people by the Church of Jesus Christ.
Replacement Theology

About 2000 years before Jesus, God said to Abraham,

Get yourself out of your country, away from your kinsmen and away from your father’s house, and go to the land that I will show you. I will
make of you a great nation. I will bless you, and I will make your name great; and you are to be a blessing.
I will bless those who bless you, but I will curse anyone who curses you; and by you all the families of the earth will be blessed…
all the land you see I will give to you and your descendents forever.1

The Jews, or the Chosen People, were set apart by God for a purpose. God promised to bless the world through them, just as the Messiah said to the woman at the well, “…Salvation is of the Jews.”2

Replacement Theology is a commonly held belief within Christianity today. Replacement Theology, or Supersessionism, teaches that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, changed His mind, and turned His back on the Jews because they had rejected and killed Jesus. God annulled the promise that He had made to the Jews, and chose a new bride, the Church. It will be shown that this doctrine lies at the core of most Christians’ beliefs (theology) today.

Ancient pagan gods of mythology, such as the Romans’ Jupiter, the Greeks’ Zeus, and the Egyptians’ Ra, behaved capriciously. The gods were fickle. They could, and did, change their minds whenever it suited them. The pagan gods’ dealings with humans were unpredictable and could not be trusted. Men had created these false deities out of their own vivid imaginations. The gods’ changeable personalities reflected those of the men who had made them. Paganism will rear its ugly head again and again in the centuries to come.

Is the God of the Bible fickle like the mythological pagan gods? Did He indeed cast off His Chosen People?

Death in the City

Two thousand years ago Caesar Augustus was the ruler of the Roman Empire at the time of Yeshua’s (Jesus’ Hebrew name) birth. Yeshua lived all of His adult life in Roman-occupied Israel, and was executed during the reign of Tiberius Caesar. In Judea, called Palestina by the Romans, almost all of the early Yeshua-followers, and all of their leaders, were Jewish. In fact, prior to the Jerusalem council ruling found in Acts 15, it was thought that the only way a gentile could become a follower of the Messiah was first to convert to Judaism.

In AD 66 the Great Revolt against Rome erupted in Caesarea, not far from Jerusalem. The Roman 10th Legion, 60,000 strong, destroyed the Temple and the city of Jerusalem in AD 70. Jews fled Jerusalem to safe areas away from the overwhelming Roman army’s slaughter. Thousands of zealots and ordinary people were captured during the war, and transported as slaves to distant lands in the vast Roman Empire by the victors.3 The Diaspora, the dispersion, of Yeshua-believing and non-believing Jews would prove to cause extraordinary changes throughout the known world at that time.

The majority of the Jewish populations did not believe in Yeshua. They had and would continue to encounter false Messiahs. Jews expected the Messiah to remove the Roman boot from their necks, and deliver them from tyranny. Yeshua did not deliver freedom from Roman oppression. The contemporary thinking seems to have been: “The Messiah is supposed to make everything all better, right now! Yeshua did not fulfill the prophecies just the way I think that they should have been fulfilled, so he must not be the Messiah....”

Most Christians today have the impression that the Jews in first century Judea were a single-minded, homogeneous group of people, acting in one accord. Nothing could be further from the truth. We know that the Sadducees were in conflict with the Pharisees, and the Essenes4 were off to the east by the Dead Sea doing their own thing. In fact, every preacher's favorite whipping boys, the Pharisees, were the earliest defenders5 of the followers of The Way, as the believers were then called. The important thing to remember is that for the first fifteen years or so after the Messiah's resurrection almost all Christians were Jewish.

Modern Christians will be stunned to learn that the most likely place that someone would hear the Good News would be in a synagogue from a traveling rabbi, such as Peter, Thomas, or Paul.

The already divided Jewish community scattered across the Roman Empire became even more fractured as tens of thousands more Jewish people believed in Yeshua. The only difference between the average Jewish man in the street and a Jewish follower of Yeshua was that the latter believed that He was the Messiah. Everything else was the same, including observing the Torah (the Law), celebrating God’s feasts, following the dietary instructions in the Bible, and attending the synagogue on the Sabbath.6

The Rise and Demise of Western Civilization

After hearing about Yeshua from some displaced Jewish refugees who were scattered across the Mediterranean, Europe, Africa, Asia, and India, pagans began to look to Him in larger and larger numbers. Jewish and gentile believers alike had turned the world upside down in their enthusiasm to proclaim His arrival.

Jesus offered real truth and integrity to gentiles who had been deceived by the priests of their false gods. The teachings of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and His Son, soon began to emerge, take hold, and profoundly influence the history of Western Civilization.

Pagan Influence
The divide between Jesus believers and non-believers in the Jewish community widened as gentiles throughout the Roman Empire came to the Jewish Messiah. Even as the ink on the apostolic writings was barely dry, leaders in the church began to disparage the Jewish people and their sacred scriptures, the Old Testament.

For example, Marcion (active c.140) manufactured a total disconnect between the Old Testament and the New; Justin Martyr (c.100-165) denigrated the Old Testament as only of small importance, and appealed to the Jews to “endeavor to prefer to your own teaching the Christ of Almighty God.”7 Their teachings have influenced Christian theologians to this day.

Gentile Christians began to devalue the Jewish people, and regard them as no longer relevant to God’s plan. They were considered disposable, rubbish, and beneath contempt. The Christians shouted, “They killed Christ!” In fact, the Jewish people did not cause His death.8

Gentiles, by the weight of their numbers, began to displace Jews in the Christian leadership. Christians did not encourage the Jews to retain their Jewish identities, traditions, or customs. Keeping the Sabbath and the Biblical feasts were frowned on, and eventually forbidden.

The Roman Emperor Constantine codified these prohibitions into law when he formed his Roman Catholic Church. He elevated his pagan festivals over those specified in God’s Word (Council of Nicea, 325).9 Believing Jews were humiliated. They assimilated into the gentile Church, and nearly lost their distinction altogether.

In a downward spiral, Christianity had become violent with Constantine’s ruthless use of the cross as a sword. There were long, dark days for Christians and Jews alike in the Middle Age (5th-15th century). Murderous campaigns, called pogroms, rallied Christians against Jewish communities. Vicious massacres of Jews occurred in Europe, as western Christian civilization descended into chaos and barbarism.

Christians in the Holy Land: Cross and Sword

Popes rallied Christian armies from France, England, and other European kingdoms to trek to the Ancient Near East in order to liberate sacred sites from the Muslims during the time of the Crusades (1096 to 1291). While temporarily ceasing to fight against one another back home in Europe, the Crusader armies united at least four separate times to conquer the infidel Muslims in the land of Christ’s birth, and make it safe for Christian pilgrims to visit the holy sites, beginning with Urban II, had promised the military men forgiveness for some of their sins if they would go on crusade and kill the Infidel Muslims in the Holy Land.10 In their anticipation for adventure on the battlefield, they painted crosses on their shields and incorporated the sign of the cross into their clothing. They were soldiers of Christ.

While they marched across Europe to Jerusalem, the Christian knights stopped long enough on the way to slaughter and wipe out whole towns of prosperous Jewish communities. These Jews were the enemies of God they already knew from the sermons preached during the Easter holidays.11

After long, arduous expeditions by sea and land, where many Crusaders died, they finally arrived in the Holy Land. While attacking Muslim forts and killing the local villagers, the Christians soldiers almost destroyed the Jewish population along with the Islamic enemy. Emblazoned across their chests and resplendent on the banners of the invading Christian armies, was a terrifying emblem of death, the sign of the cross. Today the cross is a despised symbol to both Muslims and Jews in the same land that the Crusaders invaded, modern Israel.

The Crusaders’ rescue efforts were not successful in the long run. The Muslims recaptured most of the holy places from the European armies after each expedition from the eleventh to the thirteenth centuries. Magnificent crumbling Crusader forts remain behind in the Holy Land as testimony of the futility of their building projects and brave combat. They only tell sad tales of failed plans and a bloody history. The Crusades were a grand illusion that had vanished as the Muslims grew in numbers and strength in the Ancient Near East (today’s Middle East).

In a continuation of the spirit of the crusading philosophy, inquisitions or examinations against both Christians and non-Christians had been organized by the Church in order to establish a “peace of God” or “truce of God” in the Christian world.12 Pope Gregory IX (1223) established a centralized office of Inquisition to campaign against heretics.13 The Church officials were ordered to find, question, and sentence those who did not hold orthodox religious beliefs. The consequences of these interrogations were bloodshed and death.

The Jews in Spain: Sword and Stake

Muslims had already swept across North Africa and conquered most of Spain and Portugal, long before the Crusaders assembled their armies to storm the Holy Land. The Moors (Muslims) dominated much of the Iberian Peninsula from the 700s until the 1400s, when the Crusades were only an almost forgotten dream in the distant past.

Spanish Jews (Sephardim), who had been forcibly dispersed to Spain from Judea by the Romans in AD 70, lived and prospered under Moorish rule (711 to the twelfth century) when they enjoyed a relative sense of security.14

Spanish and Portuguese armies fought back against the Moors in prolonged wars, called the Reconquista (recapture). Christian kings invited the Jews to help repopulate the areas of the country that the conquered Moorish caliphs had vacated in defeat during their escape back to Africa. The Catholic rulers continued to show the Jews respect, employed them as ministers in the government, and kept them close to the throne as trusted confidantes. The monarchs needed the Sephardic Jews’ extraordinary help in ruling their newly liberated kingdoms.

Before 1391, Spanish kings had reluctantly protected their Jewish people, but Spaniards could not get along with, nor could they get along without, their financiers and professionals who were necessary to the nation’s economy. The Spanish and Portuguese kingdoms became unbalanced, as riots and hate against the Jews turned into terror and slaughter, but he kings could not defend or protect their Jewish populations any longer.15

Medieval times gave way to the Renaissance in Europe as Columbus sailed to the Americas from Spain in 1492. King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella financed Columbus’ voyages, and the royal couple also expelled the last of the Moors in the same year. The monarchs finally completed the recapture of the regions that had been held by the Muslims for nearly seven hundred years.

The Sephardic Jews came under enormous suspicion, and had long been the objects of envy because of their great wealth. The Catholic sovereigns controlled the Church in Spain, and new religious zeal revived the Christians.16 The Jews were told to convert to Catholicism or leave the country.

In 1492 the Jewish population was exiled from Spain, and their properties were confiscated.17 Approximately one third of the Jewish population converted (Conversos). One third fled to Rome, Portugal, Turkey, Holland, England, France, Africa, and some eventually to the Americas. One third were murdered.18

The notorious Spanish Inquisition (c. 1542) had been set up, but it was not against the Jews. It was against those Jews who led dual lives. Called Marranos, or Crypto Jews, they pretended to be Catholic outwardly, but still practiced Judaism secretly. Even as late as 1680, in Madrid, the Inquisition continued against the Marranos. They had to be rooted out and destroyed. Some Sephardic Jews who would not convert planned resistance against the wave of destruction from the Church, but they were betrayed. Whole families and communities were burned at the stake even after many declared that they were indeed true Catholics. It did not matter. They were judged to be heretics. Tens of thousands were burned at the stake.19

The Jews in Northern Europe: Faith and Camps

Simultaneously, in the 1500s, while the Inquisition was in full swing in southern Europe, the Renaissance was flourishing in Italy. The subsequent Protestant Reformation in the north, changed the course of western history.

Ironically, at the same time, the German Protestant leader, Martin Luther, the great reformer, called for the annihilation of the Jews. He had thought that the Jews, some who had been forced into ghettos, would come to Christ in droves after he had reformed the Roman Catholic Church in Northern Europe. “Salvation is by faith, not works!” “Buying indulgences from the Pope does not get you or your relatives into heaven!” he rightly heralded.

Luther invited his Jewish neighbors and countrymen to rally to him, and join his Protestant Church, but they refused. The Jews’ rejection of his new church enraged him. His anger came to life and burned fiercely through his inflammatory writings. The great Protestant Reformer wrote an anti-Jewish manifesto in 1543 entitled, On the Jews and Their Lies:

What shall we Christians do with this rejected and condemned people, the Jews?
Set fire to their synagogues or schools and…bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man ever see a stone or cinder of them…. I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed…that their prayer books and Talmudic writings…be taken from them…that their rabbis be forbidden to teach.… I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for Jews…[and] all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them.20

Protestants today have no problem pointing out the abuses of the Roman Catholic Church, but this came from the Protestant Reformer we are taught to revere and admire for his great thoughts about God and the Bible. Luther had thrown out the Catholic brand of Replacement Theology, where the Church, in their magnificent cathedrals, had attempted to copy the rituals of the Hebrews, but replaced it with his own version of Replacement Theology. He had really carried Replacement Theology bag and baggage from the Roman Catholic Church, and dropped it right into the pews of his new Protestant Church. Luther was so right to condemn the sale of indulgences to Catholics,21 but he was so wrong about the Jews.

Four hundred years later, before and during the Second World War in Europe (1939-1945), the Holocaust demonstrated the consequences of Luther’s brand of Replacement Theology. It is horrible to contemplate, but Luther’s tirades against the Jewish people led logically to the actions of the Nazi Party headed by Adolph Hitler. The Jews were the cause of all of the world’s problems, said the Nazis, and deserved only enslavement or destruction.

Many educated and sophisticated Europeans embraced the Nazi’s neo-pagan religion22 and joined the Party. They proposed mass extermination of the entire European Jewish population. Hitler’s speeches against the Jews echoed those of Luther. Some contemporary Christian theologians legitimized Hitler’s theology.

One famous example was that of German Protestant theologian, Gerhard Kittlel (1888-1948).
“As late as 1944, Kittel still praised Christianity and the Nazi regime. He called them twin bulwarks in the effort to save civilization from the menace of the Jews.”23 Kittel was well aware of the atrocities being conducted in the concentration camps, yet continued his anti-Semitic teachings. (He was tried later as a war criminal.)24
The Nazi SS officially celebrated Luther's birthday,25 as he and his book provided justification for the killing of the Jews. It was as if the SS took their marching orders from the great Protestant Reformer himself. These are very hard facts for Protestants to absorb, but it is a painful reality.

Hitler did not need to coerce Germans and Austrians to his adopt his anti-Semitic views. Protestants and Catholics of all socio-economic classes already hated the Jews. Some Christians willingly joined the horrific task of wholesale extermination of the Chosen People. The concentration camps were many and huge, and when liberated by the Allied Army in 1945, they horrified the world. Christians and non-Christians alike could not fathom how such atrocities could take place in a civilized Christian nation such as Germany. Generations born since the Holocaust are still repulsed by those events of the 20th Century, but not all lament the past. Some want to revive it.

The Jews in the Americas: Cemeteries and Seminaries

Echoes from the Second World War are heard today. European Jews are leaving in large numbers to seek safety in Israel. Nazi swastikas appear regularly in Jewish cemeteries in the United States26 and around the world. Synagogues are vandalized in the United States. Hate speech is directed toward Jewish students and the State of Israel on American university campuses. Boycotts against Israel are organized annually.

Recent events occur in familiar locations around the globe:
Poland
July 15, 2010
Vandals desecrated the grave of a Polish woman who saved 2,500 Jewish children from death during WWII. The words “Jews out” were spray painted on her grave [in Warsaw].

Spain
February 1, 2010
A young Hasidic Jew was stopped on the street in the center of Madrid by a woman who slapped him and repeatedly hurled insults, including “Dirty Jew,” “You are responsible for all the evils in the world.”
Egypt
February 21, 2010
A man claiming to be angry at Israel threw a suitcase containing a homemade bomb
at the city’s [Cairo] last active synagogue, Shaar Hashamyim. A 49-year-old man was arrested and charged with the incident.
Canada
April 5, 2010
Two students at Carleton University [Quebec] were allegedly harassed and chased by a group of men brandishing a machete and screaming anti-Semitic remarks in English and Arabic…. [O]ne of the attackers threw the machete, narrowly missing them.

Argentina
April 1, 2010
Swastikas and anti-Semitic phrases, such as “Morten Juden” (Death to Jews), were spray-painted near a [Santa Teresita] hotel where more than 200 people were celebrating Passover.27
New Jersey, USA
July 2005
“Elliot Stein, of Brooklyn, and his girlfriend received their bill after dining at a restaurant at the New Jersey shore. What Mr. Stein saw shocked him. Scribbled on the bill were the words, “Jew Couple.”28

In 2006, I downloaded an open letter (2002) from Knox Theological Seminary where I had attended classes in late 1990. It revolted me to see their position regarding the State of Israel. Statements contained in the document place much of the modern Evangelical church on very dangerous ground. After thoroughly examining the document and checking biblical references, it was abundantly clear to me that the premise in the open letter is erroneous and unbiblical. Bible verses are miss-interpreted and grossly taken out of context. This excerpt is representative of the whole document:
…Moreover, apart from Christ there is no special divine favor upon any member of ANY ETHNIC GROUP [emphasis mine]; nor apart from Christ, is there any divine PROMISE OF AN EARTHLY LAND [emphasis mine] or a heavenly inheritance to anyone whether Jew or Gentile…29

The Knox Seminary web page repeated this or similar statements two more times.

It is appalling that such unscholarly work would come out of a prestigious Protestant institution. Such ideas are also appearing in other evangelical, denominational, and Bible college publications. The name “Israel” is devalued in favor of “Palestine.”30 Israel and the Jewish people are looked upon as illegal occupiers of their own land, which was given to them by God.31

Why Replacement Theology Fails

The doctrine of Replacement Theology, held by the Church for nearly all of its history, fails, both biblically and logically. A god who breaks his promises (or covenant) to a people-group cannot be trusted. In the Bible the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob always kept His promises (not like the pagan gods of mythology, as mentioned above). Ask yourself this: “If God cannot or will not keep His promises to the Jews, then how can I expect him to keep His promises to me?” The Bible demonstrates that God does not think or act in a capricious manner concerning the Jews or anyone else.

Most people think that the omnipotence, or “all-powerful-ness,” of God indicates that He can do anything He wants. In reality, there is only one thing He cannot do: God cannot act in a manner that is against His own character. He cannot and will not contradict Himself. He is not fickle. God does not go back on a commitment. Changing His mind is not consistent with His character.

God had pledged that he would never forsake the Jewish people.32 The everlasting pact is reconfirmed numerous times in the Bible. Because of this assurance, the doctrine that the Church has replaced Israel in God’s plan cannot be true. He has not set aside the Jews and promoted the Church in their place. This doctrine is unbiblical, false and dangerous.

Does the Evangelical Protestant church today merely regurgitate the same doctrines that will lead to the same horrific events of history being repeated: death for Jewish people?

Unfortunately some people can learn from history by repeating rather than learning from their mistakes.33

Concentration camps are still possible.



Times are Changing

Israelis won back the Temple Mount in 1967 during the Six-day War. Their spectacular victory in Jerusalem captured the world’s imagination. Jewish Messianic congregations made up of believers in Jesus began to form in Israel, the United States, and around the globe.

They started out in small numbers, and have since grown to tens of thousands. Messianic congregations meet on Saturday, the Sabbath, keep the Torah, biblical dietary laws and feasts, and follow God’s Son, Yeshua. Jewish believers in the Messiah retain their identities. They do not stop being Jewish, and they do not become gentiles. We gentile believers are welcome in their congregations.

Even the Roman Catholic Church has repented of the Inquisition, and recently declared that the Jews did not kill Christ.34

How wonderful to see this pattern of estrangement often reversed in our generation!35


1 Genesis 12:13, 13:15, CJB (Complete Jewish Bible).

2 John 4:22.

3 Josephus and the Essential Writings, translated and edited by Paul L. Maier (Grand Rapids: Kregel Publications, 1988), 366.

4 Alfred Edersheim, The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah (Hendrickson Publishers, Inc., 2004), 165.

5 Acts 5:34: 23:9.

6 Acts 15: 19-20.

7 The New International Dictionary of the Christian Church, ed. J.D. Douglas (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1974).

8 His Father did.

9 James P. Carroll, Constantine’s Sword, The Church and the Jews-A History (New York: Houghton Mifflin, 2001). The book by Carroll, a former Catholic priest, was made into a documentary film, Constantine’s Sword, directed by Oren Jacoby (Storyville Films, 2007), DVD.

10 Donald Kagen, The Western Heritage (New York: Macmillan, 1987), 246-247.

11 James P Carroll, Constantine’s Sword.

12 William R. Estep, Renaissance and Reformation (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1986), 10.

13 Kagen, 296.

14 Kagen, 331.

15 Out of Spain, Jerusalem Which Was in Sepharad, Yigal Lossin, director, hosted by Yitzhak Navon, fifth President of Israel (Israel Broadcasting Authority: 2006), DVD.

16 Estep, 98.

17 Kagin, 331.

18 Out of Spain.

19 Out of Spain.

20 Steve Hercig, “The Roots of Nazism,” Israel My Glory, (Bellmawr, NJ: Friends of Israel, March/April 2006), 19, citing Martin Luther, On The Jews and Their Lies (1543), trans. Martin H. Bertram, in Luther’s Works, The Christian in Society, ed. Franklin Sherman and Helmut T. Lehmann (Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1971), 47:268.

21 The New International Dictionary of the Christian Church.

22 Carroll, Constantine’s Sword.

23 Robert P. Erickson, Christian Complicity, Changing Views on German Churches and the Holocaust, (retrieved from the internet, April 2011), 3. From the Joseph and Rebecca Meyerhoff, Annual Lecture 8 November 2007, citing Gerhard Kittel, “Das Rassenproblem der Spatanik und das Fruhchristientum,” a lecture delivered by Kittel at the University of Vienna, June 15,1944. Erickson found the lecture in typescript in the theological library, the University of Tubingen.

24 Ibid.

25 Richard Steigmann-Gall, The Holy Reich: Nazi Conceptions of Christianity, 1919-1945 (Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 2003), 135, retrieved, April 2011.

26 I have seen this with my own eyes in South Florida.

27 Jeffrey Seif, February 2011 Newsletter, Zola Levitt Ministries, www.levitt.com, citing http://www.adl.org/Anti_...obal_incidents_2010.asp.

28 Hercig, 18.

29 Signed by more than one hundred pastors, seminary professors, and students. “An Open Letter to Evangelicals and Other Interested Parties: The People of God, the Land of Israel, and the Impartiality of the Gospel,” 2002. Knox Theological Seminary 5554 N. Federal Highway, Ft. Lauderdale, FL, DeanofFaculty@knoxseminary.org., retrieved April, 2006.

30 Seif, December 2010 Newsletter, ZLM, citing Barry J. Beitzel, The New Moody Atlas of the Bible, (Chicago: Moody Bible Institute Press, 2009).

31 Genesis 13:15.

32 Jeremiah 31:36, 37.

33 Yoram Ettinger, former Charge D’affaires, Israeli Embassy, Washington, Interviewed by Laura Kornfeld, Israel Broadcasting Authority, 17 May 2011.

34 Ryan Jones, “Pope’s New Book Absolves Jews,” Israel Today, April 2011, 20, citing Joseph Ratzinger and Pope Benedict XVI, Jesus of Nazareth, Part II.

35 Sam Nadler, “The Gentile Great Commission,” The Messianic Messenger, Newsletter (Charlotte, NC: Hope of Israel, May 2011), 2.
Nehemiah wrote:
"We carried our weapons with us at all times, even when we went for water" Nehemiah 4:23b

We would do well to follow Nehemiah's example! http://OurSafeHome.net
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 31, 2011 8:22:55 AM(UTC)
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Can I just say, "WOW."...I need a muse like this....Her musing are very well thought out..
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This is not really a reply to what Daniel shared of his mother's writings. I simply have to state publicly and loudly that I do not accept that the RCC has ever repented of anything, and I do not believe it would matter if they did. They are liars and predatory hunters for Satan, so whether they acknowledge centuries after the fact that they committed murder is irrelevant and changes nothing. Their edict authorizing the inquisition is still on their books, if reports are correct, so their claim to have repented is malarkey.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 1, 2011 4:36:34 AM(UTC)
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flintface wrote:
...I do not accept that the RCC has ever repented of anything...

...so their claim to have repented is malarkey.


They are a bunch of creepy old men who wear dresses, celebrate drinking symbolic blood and molest little boys.

Why would anyone trust them about anything?!?!?!?
Nehemiah wrote:
"We carried our weapons with us at all times, even when we went for water" Nehemiah 4:23b

We would do well to follow Nehemiah's example! http://OurSafeHome.net
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#5 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:30:05 AM(UTC)
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Some more good musings..if the link goes to pjtv then scroll down to Whoopie Goldberg..Zo Nation takes her on and it's a pretty good message right up tilll the very end.

http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd...mp;mpid=84&load=5743
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