Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.



Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline Jeannie  
#1 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:41:00 AM(UTC)
Joined: 6/27/2007(UTC)
Posts: 254
Location: Florida

Below is an exchange with a POD reader but fits nicely here.

Wed. Sept 6, 2006

Hello Prophet of Doom team.

I have almost completed reading your book, but their is one part that I
don't agree with you. But this has nothing to do with Islam, but rather
with the Biblical account of Cain's wife.

You wrote:

"The Bible gives us evidence of an old earth and "humans" apart from
spirit-filled man-man created in God's image. Yahweh instructed Noah to
cover the ark with pitch-the residue of dead plants, animals, and time. He
also talked to Noah about the sons of God marrying the daughters of men.
And Yahweh told us that he put a mark on Cain's forehead so that others
would know that he was under his protection. If mom and dad were the only
humans, that would have served no purpose.
I share these insights because I want you to know several things. When
Yahweh said that he made us out of the same elements from which he made
the animals he was speaking of humans-Homo sapiens. Adam was a special
creation-made of the same raw material but with one important difference.
Yahweh breathed his spirit into Adam, creating us with a spiritual
The Garden of Eden was perfect, walled and guarded, protecting Adam
from the death and dying that was occurring all around him-outside of
God's protection. But ultimately Adam chose poorly, as did most of his
descendants. And that brought us to Noah, his ark of salvation, and a very
real flood that led to this new beginning."

But I disagree, because I think Cain's wife was his sister. Since Adam and
Eve were the only humans God created, their children's had to intermarry.
You said that Cain and his parents were the only people on the Earth, but
that is unlikely. Since Cain and Abel were farmers, they must have been
adults. So Adam and Eve must have had many children that were not

Also since God put the mark on Cain, he did it to prevent others from
killing him. If there were other "unintelligent" life forms, why would they

even care what Cain did. But if there were other siblings, this would make
perfect sense, why Cain was scared of getting killed. Since the other
siblings were most likely close to Abel, they would be wanting to seek
revenge for his death.

Incest is illegal now because of the many defects it can arise. But since
Adam and Eve were the first humans, their gene pool would have been
perfectly clean and free from any defects. This is why God forbade incest
much later, in (Leviticus 18:6-18)

I'll be looking forward for a reply.



What I wrote in this section of POD regarding the Genesis account is
accurate, although very incomplete. I have since covered Genesis one in
great depth and would encourage you to read the first four chapters of
www.YadaYahweh.com. They will profoundly alter your perceptions about what
Yahweh actually revealed.

Offline Theophilus  
#2 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:13:23 AM(UTC)
Joined: 7/5/2007(UTC)
Posts: 527

Thanks: 3 times
I see that this POD reader has some of the same questions I had when I first encountered Yada's Genesis insights in PoD. While the first four chapters of YY indeed do set the framework for these insights, I anticipate that the yet to be completed chapters of YY book 1 will clarify the specifics of Adam, the fall, and the flood. That said I still struggle to follow the Genesis narrative.

As an example YY clarified that plant life began on the third yowm (time period) even before the atmosphere became transparent and the sun, moon, and stars became visable.

“And the earth (‘erets) brought forth vegetation (dasha dashe’ – shoot forth greenery, become verdant, growing plant life; be productive, live and grow green), plants (‘eseb) that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And Elohim saw that it was good.” (Genesis 1:12)

Yet in Genesis 2:5-6 we read (ISR Scriptures translation)

5“Now no shrub of the field was yet on the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for Elohim had not sent rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground, 6but a mist went up from the earth and watered the entire surface of the ground.” (Genesis 2:5-6)

I'm guessing the shrub of the field refers to specific crops? And what of the not sending rain? Is this speaking of a condition existing only inside the garden of Eden or globally?

I hope others can see how I can be uncertain as to how to understand these questions. Thankfully I find these questions secondary to the Good News, but are frequent questions by seekers and skeptics evaluating the accuracy of the Scriptures.
Users browsing this topic
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.