Ok, so I am kinda new to this site. I have been reading a good amount of what has to be said because it is very interesting to me, and not only that, but I believe that it is a good site to refer to in order to help me on my quest for Truth. One question that I do have (I'm sure there will be more) is about the creation of man. Yah being a single entity or One, why would He say let "Us" make man in our image? I'm not quite grasping this one yet. Please help.

Thank you,

Your brother in Yahushua

Hi and welcome!!

I would have said what Matt has said :)

Welcome again to the forums, I hope you find some answers here! :)

Hi, sirgodfrey, and welcome to the forum. The whole "God is One" but He said, "Let Us make man in Our image" thing has been a source of confusion since the dawn of time. But the answer is evident in the scriptures, if only we'll look for it, and take Yahweh at His word. He is One---that is, there is only one "God." His self-revealed name is YHWH, which means "I am," though we aren't to translate names, only transmit them. The idea of a "trinity" is slightly off the mark, for it leaves the impression that there are actually three Gods, or as the hymn puts it, "God in three persons." That's not precisely correct, though "God the Father," "God the Son" (Yahshua, popularly known as Jesus), and the "Holy Spirit" (Hebrew: Ruach Qodesh) all exist and operate in our lives. But the reality is simplicity itself, though it may seem complex at first.

As I said, there is only One God, YHWH. "He" (although the gender characterizations we use for convenience aren't really physical characteristics of deity) manifests Himself to mankind in a number of different ways. As you may have noticed, there is a recurring six-plus-one pattern woven throughout scripture, always used to reveal God's plan to us (the creation week plus day of rest, the work week plus Sabbath, etc.). I was therefore not at all surprised to find precisely six "manifestations" of deity through which YHWH revealed Himself and His plan to mankind. They are:

(1) The "Son" of God, Yahshua, who walked the earth as a human being from his birth in 2 BC to his death, resurrection, and ascension in 33 AD.

(2) The "Holy Spirit," who (as promised by Yahshua) indwells the lives of His believers, giving eternal life to our souls, comforting, consoling, and convicting us.

(3) The Shekinah, the "glory of God" who was manifested as light, fire, smoke, and possibly other physical phenomena. Examples of this form would be the burning bush of Moses, the pillar of fire and smoke the Israelites followed in the wilderness, and the "smoke" that filled the Most Holy Place of the Tabernacle.

(4) The "Angel (i.e., messenger) of Yahweh" such as the being that discussed parenthood with Abram and Sarai, and perhaps the One who conversed with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. I'd guess that Melchizedek was such a messenger.

(5) The risen or glorified Yahshua, clearly not the same type of being as his mortal human manifestation. We see Him first on the Mount of Transfiguration, then for forty days after His resurrection, then reigning on earth during the Millennial Kingdom and throughout eternity.

(6) Finally, there are scattered non-human physical manifestations of diety recorded in scripture, such as what Ezekiel saw (1:28) or what John witnessed in Revelation 4.

They're all YHWH---they're all manifestations of the One God, presented different ways to achieve different purposes and communicate different things.

kp

Guys, this is no attempt at disproving any of the aforementioned, but I am simply looking for clarification and greater understanding. That being said:

Hbr 1:8 But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Hbr 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, [even] thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.


I'm trying to understand these statements better in the context of Yahweh and Him existing as manifestations of Himself. What I'm not getting is how he could call the Son God, as if the Son were not Him per se. It's hard to put into words as I'm typing this. He's not speaking to Himself, is He? or is He speaking to the manifestation of Himself which is just that, Himself? I just don't know, lol.

I also see it like this...

Yahushua was our human template - He was an example of how we are to try and live and commune with our Father. Not only was He the Father, but in speaking about and to the Father He was able to show us what and how we are to approch Him.

I think it was another one of those pictures Yah likes to paint... also I would agree with KP.

All that said - I am willing to accept that this is something I could never fully comprehend, but there is always a reason why He does things like this - for me I think its to not only make the perfect sacifice - but to live the perfect life and show us how its done.

For the short version (about 30 pages) of the "three doors" concept, sirgodfrey, try Future History, chapter 29:
http://www.futuretruth.n...The_Three_Doors.Prophecy
Yada covers the concept in Yada Yahweh as well, in somewhat more detail.

kp

Can I say this? Yahuweh specifically made Himself in the form of a man so that He could do things without obliterating His universe by His presence. I'm trying to picture it my mind, I'm imagining a ball of light (which is Yahweh), and instead of the light in fullness moving around the universe He separates a part of light, a part of Himself, into the form/figure of a man. Even providing a Name for Him, that of Yahushua, a Name found in His own Name, that of Yahuweh. Being in the form of a man allows Him to relate to us, in fact it even has the benefit of making us feel more comfortable knowing that Yahushua (who is the Son of God) is in a similar form/figure to us. Instead of looking at a ball of light with intimidation we can look at a man similar to us, yet was without sin.

By the way, I'm not trying to insult God by saying He's a "ball of light," I honsetly don't know what the Father looks like, just trying to understand the concept of manifestations better ;)

So with Yahushua praying to God, He didn't need to pray, but was rather setting an example for us. Am I right? Or did Yahushua prayer just to keep in contact with the Father, Yahusha did after all take on the form of a man, just like us?

Did Yahushua always have a soul from eternity past, or did He take on a soul when He took on the form of a human? But from YY I take it that Yahushua's soul reunited with His body and Spirit at resuurection, and this indicates that His soul was always existing. I'm trying to get to grips of this whole "taking on a human manifestation" and "praying" to Yahuweh. And, was Yahushua "created" or has He always existed?

I vote "a." too!

Shabbat Shalom,

While reading this multiple choice, suddenly I had a thought of Yahweh with a finger puppet... guess who? :-)