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JK wrote: Good evening,
You were especially vocal on last week’s program about unvaccinated individuals. Well, I am one of them, and I want to take a minute to express my concerns on a subject of which I have invested several hundred hours of study. I have read NIH abstracts, clinical studies, dozens of experts in the field of virology and immunology, and I have watched government bureaucrats offering their opinions. I find it very disturbing, and I see behavior and actions that heighten my suspicion.
First, I do not fault anyone for taking an experimental vaccine. It is a freewill choice. However, I find it bewildering that millions of people will invest serious due diligence in considering a smart phone purchase say, than considering the risk/reward benefit of participating in the most massive medical experiment in human history.
First and foremost, I do not trust career bureaucrats telling me what I need to do concerning my health. I see an FDA and CDC engaged in a revolving door relationship with big business. I see government officials providing official guidance while intertwined in financial relationships with the industry they are assigned to regulate, including making recommendations that benefit them personally because their taxpayer-funded research allows them to profit from patents they secure, including COVID patents. The esteemed Dr. Fauci has never treated a patient in a clinical setting, yet he is the highest paid bureaucrat in the federal government. His term in office has only been exceeded by J. Edgar Hoover. He has doled out somewhere around a trillion dollars in taxpayer funds over his career, on projects he personally approves of and in some cases, profits personally from.
Let’s talk about FDA math. In a drastically shortened clinical trial, Pfizer enlisted 44,000+ volunteers. These were split into two groups of 22,000+, fully vaccinated and unvaccinated. The unvaccinated group had 122 positive Covid test results. The vaccinated group had 8. This resulted in a 95% efficacy rate (8 vs 122), i.e. relative risk. In terms of absolute risk, this means that vaccinating 22,000+ individuals yielded just 114 less positive tests.
In 2015, scientists began warning the CDC and FDA about the implications of vaccinations that do not confer full immunity. Most of the previous vaccines did promote development of antibodies that recognize the entire viral makeup, because the shots were composed of either complete dead virus or attenuated live virus. mRNA vaccines were never designed, tested, approved, or even claimed to produce such immunity, only reduced severity of the infection. This information was withheld, understandably, because it could reduce the public’s confidence in vaccines. The immunologists and virologists explained that having a population thus vaccinated provides a perfect host for the virus, which can take advantage of the selective challenge to mutate and spread. This is very similar to the phenomenon of antibiotic resistant disease strains. These vaccines only prime the immune system to respond to the spike protein.
The Jonas Salk Institute tested a modified COVID virus with animals by removing the viral nucleus and leaving just the viral coating and the spike proteins intact. The animals suffered all the pulmonary and vascular damage as the whole virus would have induced. This explains the difference between natural immunity and the mRNA induced immunity that is limited solely to the spike protein. Natural T-Cells and killer cells develop a memory for the entire viral entity, providing long lasting immunity. The mRNA vaccine does not, and that likely explains why fully vaccinated individuals make up 50-75 of hospitalizations, and there have been thousands of deaths - thankfully (bad term) for mostly elderly people with multiple comorbidities. See the data from Israel, Massachusetts, and other countries.
The censorship machine is running full tilt. Quoting peer-reviewed, randomized clinical studies of effective off-label drugs that thousands of front-line doctors around the world have discovered, will get even qualified experts de-platformed. This is a warning signal in my thinking. It makes sense though, because if an effective therapeutic were available, the FDA would not have the legal authority to approve an experimental vaccine or treatment. It would have to undergo the rigorous and time-consuming trials that any normal regimen would be required by law.
I have thoroughly evaluated the risk/benefit equation and I don’t see a compelling reason to take the jab. I admire the majestic complexity of our God-given immune systems and I invest in supplements and healthy lifestyle strategies. I have traveled extensively over the last few months in states with high rates of Delta variant spread, have not adhered to social distancing, and so far so good. Luck perhaps. But given the really low overall risk across most age groups, and the relative efficacy vs risk of the vaccine, I’m owning my decision. And with respect to discrimination against the unvaccinated, the CDC admitted that fully vaccinated people carry and shed as much viral load as the unvaccinated.
I could go on for pages. I have so deeply invested my time in this, and there is so much more evidence out there. I would leave you with one thought. Ivermectin is such an inexpensive and safe drug, and so many studies around the world have shown incredible efficacy against COVID, that I would urge you to investigate having it on hand, just as I do. In May of this year, I was driving from Texas back to my temporary residence in Melbourne, FL. I had a minor sore throat for a couple of days prior to my departure. Three hours into my drive, I developed a worse sore throat, body aches and mild waves of nausea. I had a temporal thermometer on hand and it showed almost 100 degrees. I wasn’t confident I could continue the drive. I pulled into a rest stop and took a dose of Ivermectin. Before I reached the eastern border of Louisiana, the symptoms abated and the fever dropped back below normal. I have never had an onset of an apparent illness/virus resolve within 90 minutes! I don’t know if it was COVID, but wow.
Ivermectin is widely prescribed in tropical areas. It is an anti-parisitic drug with over 40 years of use with little or no serious side effects, and has even garnered the Nobel Prize in 2015. In the USVI I’m sure you could get a doctor to prescribe it for your emergency medical cabinet. There was a study done in South America where front-line medical personnel were prescribed it for prophylactic use. None of the subjects developed COVID, but hundreds in the placebo group did. The FDA is not “opposed” to testing off-label drugs like Ivermectin and Hydroxiquoroclin, they just demand a gold study trial that will cost millions and take years to complete. <sigh>
On another subject, as ever, I’m becoming more and more amazed at the connections your work is drawing from the Towrah. It just gets better and better. And your writing is just excelling. I’m excited that we are in this and I know Yahowah is proud of our work and I can’t find a better way to put that.
Keep it up!
Shalowm.
JK Yada wrote:JK,
We share a distrust of Fauci and the government, the media too - especially the political response to the virus.
I have likely spent as much or more time studying C19 from origins to mortality, the political response to consequences, and now the vaccines, as you. But there is a difference between us that you are missing. There are a substantial number of very vocal and moronic conspiratorialists who cite my work and Yahowah's name while promoting anti-vax diarrhea. They are attacking Covenant members and diminishing our credibility every day. Anti-vax is the favored conspiracy of the day, and conspiracy is the fastest growing religion in the world. It is debilitating, destructive, and deadly. It must be countered.
My job is to educate and protect Yah's flock and to shepherd His people home. The Corona - 19 conspiracies have become a serious obstacle.
JK, I think you have made the wrong decision. But, so long as you are careful about advising others and what you promote, that's your call. The evidence is overwhelmingly clear that while not perfect, you and those with whom you are close, would be safer vaccinated.
There has been a very large "test" of these vaccines. 32% of the 8 billion on the planet have received a dose, 4.8 billion doses in total, 37 million more per day. The negative side effects over the past 8 months have been minimal. And the protection has been as projected.
World politics has delayed boosters and modifications for the new strains. Without both, and with such a high percentage unwilling to be vaccinated, we will have to endure overreaching government controls for another 3 to 4 years. The world will never recover economically or morally.
Over the centuries, viruses have mutated to become more contagious and less deadly. That continues to be the case with the Delta variant. Epsilon and Lambda, however, appear worrisome. We are in new territory with a blended virus with SARS, HIV, and Ebola and a designed spike.
I live in a place where the locals are stupified by conspiracy such that the USVI is now one of the most infected regions. The government is now bribing the locals with $250 for each jab, along with a jab lottery. And all of the resistance is conspiratorial - with the most widely accepted myth being that there is no such virus and the whole thing is made up. It is insane.
Online today, there is someone to support any theory. Deceivers have never been more vocal or effective. In the midst of this swamp of false notions, we are dealing with the degradation of the neshamah such that most people can no longer think logically or filter and process information rationally.
Last week I may not have been sufficiently clear. While my wishes have no effect on anyone's mortality, I have no desire to see the unvaccinated succumb to the virus. But that is not the case with those who are not only risking the lives of others by promoting their absurd conspiracies, but who are also eroding our credibility by commingling their nonsense with Yahowah's testimony. Fair is fair. It is the just and correct consequence.
You are not doing any of the things I am committed to opposing, JK. So this reply is not directed at you, but instead written to explain my position on this divisive and deadly issue.
We also have another point of agreement. I have read many articles on the results of existing drugs on treating C19. There are a number of hopeful options being explored in Israel, including a new drug that may actually provide a cure. Further, I think we concur on vitamin supplements which lessen our susceptibility.
Yada
I read about Ivermectin last week. I tried to buy it online without success. It is odd that it would be effective.
Ivermectin: This medication is used to treat certain parasitic roundworm infections. Curing parasitic infections helps to improve your quality of life. In people with weakened defense (immune) systems, curing roundworm infections can reduce the risk of developing a severe or life-threatening infection. Ivermectin belongs to a class of drugs known as antihelmintics. It works by paralyzing and killing parasites. Yada wrote: JK,
I spent some time this morning on the efficacy of the vaccines. The reporting is consistent with what I have previously shared.
We are overwhelmingly safer with the vaccine, and will continue to be so with boosters. We humans have messed up most things, but we got this one right.
Yada
From: The Conversation – Academic rigor, journalistic flair… In recent weeks, one piece of data has gotten a lot of attention: 99.5% of all the people dying from COVID-19 in the U.S. are unvaccinated. As of mid-July 2021, the U.S. has fully vaccinated more than 160 million people – just under 50% of the population – against COVID-19. Despite a surplus of available vaccines, in recent weeks the rate of vaccination has slowed substantially. In early April, health workers administered roughly 4 million new vaccines daily. Today, that number is about 450,000 doses a day. The vaccines themselves are nothing short of remarkable in their effectiveness at protecting against COVID-19. Unvaccinated people, by comparison, are extremely susceptible to the coronavirus, particularly to the delta variant and the data on deaths and hospitalizations show this discrepancy clearly. On July 16, 2021, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky revealed that 99.5% of recent U.S. deaths from COVID-19 were of unvaccinated people. “Those deaths were preventable with a simple, safe shot,” she said. In Early July, Fauci said that 99.2% of people who died recently were unvaccinated. In the state of Maryland, every patient who died from COVID-19 in June was unvaccinated. In her July 16 statement, Walensky also said that 97% of current COVID-19 hospitalizations are of unvaccinated people. An earlier analysis done by The Associated Press found that 98.9% of all hospitalized COVID-19 patients in May were unvaccinated. The director of the Los Angeles County Department of Health Services recently stated that all new hospitalized COVID-19 patients in Los Angeles were unvaccinated. In the state of Missouri, only 40% of people are vaccinated. In some counties within Missouri, as few as 14.7% of the residents are vaccinated. Not surprisingly, the state has seen a surge in COVID-19 cases through the middle of July, with 2,000 to 3,000 new cases per day. The rate of spread is also increasing. Already, some hospitals are running out of ventilators and intensive care beds. Contrast this with Massachusetts, where 63% of people are fully vaccinated. Though the state is also seeing an increase in cases, total new infections numbered only around 200 to 300 per day. The number of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in Massachussetts is also down 95% since January 2021. As of July 20, 2021, Missouri had 1,357 patients hospitalized with COVID-19, almost 13 times more than the 106 patients in Massachusetts. This is despite Missouri’s having a slightly smaller population that is much more dispersed. Disclosure statement Rodney E. Rohde has received funding from the American Society of Clinical Pathologists (ASCP), American Society for Clinical Laboratory Science (ASCLS), and other public and private entities/foundations. Dr. Rohde is affiliated with ASCP, ASCLS, ASM, and serves on several scientific advisory boards. Ryan McNamara has received funding from the AIDS Malignancy Consortium and the National Institute for Allergens and Infectious Diseases. He is a member of the International AIDS Society and has served as a consultant for the Advanced Regenerative Manufacturing Institute on their Pandemic Response and Recovery Roadmap. • The data reported from these states indicate that breakthrough cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are extremely rare events among those who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 (see Figure 1). The rate of breakthrough cases reported among those fully vaccinated is well below 1% in all reporting states, ranging from 0.01% in Connecticut to 0.29% in Alaska. o The hospitalization rate among fully vaccinated people with COVID-19 ranged from effectively zero (0.00%) in California, Delaware, D.C., Indiana, New Jersey, New Mexico, Vermont, and Virginia to 0.06% in Arkansas. (Note: Hospitalization may or may not have been due to COVID-19.) o The rates of death among fully vaccinated people with COVID-19 were even lower, effectively zero (0.00%) in all but two reporting states, Arkansas and Michigan where they were 0.01%. (Note: Deaths may or may not have been due to COVID-19.) • Almost all (more than 9 in 10) COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths have occurred among people who are unvaccinated or not yet fully vaccinated, in those states reporting breakthrough data (see Figure 2). o The reported share of COVID-19 cases among those not fully vaccinated ranged from 94.1% in Arizona to 99.85% Connecticut. o The share of hospitalizations among those with COVID-19 who are not fully vaccinated ranged from in 95.02% in Alaska to 99.93% in New Jersey. (Note: Hospitalization may or may not have been due to COVID-19.) o The share of deaths among people with COVID-19 who are not fully vaccinated ranged from to 96.91% in Montana to 99.91% in New Jersey. (Note: Deaths may or may not have been due to COVID-19.) His message was meant for his fellow Israelis, but it is a warning to the world. Israel has among the world’s highest levels of vaccination for COVID-19, with 78% of those 12 and older fully vaccinated, the vast majority with the Pfizer vaccine. Yet the country is now logging one of the world’s highest infection rates, with nearly 650 new cases daily per million people. More than half are in fully vaccinated people, underscoring the extraordinary transmissibility of the Delta variant and stoking concerns that the benefits of vaccination ebb over time. The sheer number of vaccinated Israelis means some breakthrough infections were inevitable, and the unvaccinated are still far more likely to end up in the hospital or die. But Israel’s experience is forcing the booster issue onto the radar for other nations, suggesting as it does that even the best vaccinated countries will face a Delta surge. Israel is being closely watched now because it was one of the first countries out of the gate with vaccinations in December 2020 and quickly achieved a degree of population coverage that was the envy of other nations— for a time. The nation of 9.3 million also has a robust public health infrastructure and a population wholly enrolled in HMOs that track them closely, allowing it to produce high-quality, real-world data on how well vaccines are working. “I watch [Israeli data] very, very closely because it is some of the absolutely best data coming out anywhere in the world,” says David O’Connor, a viral sequencing expert at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. “Israel is the model,” agrees Eric Topol, a physician-scientist at Scripps Research. “It’s pure mRNA [messenger RNA] vaccines. It’s out there early. It’s got a very high level population [uptake]. It’s a working experimental lab for us to learn from.” Israel’s HMOs, led by CHS and Maccabi Healthcare Services (MHS), track demographics, comorbidities, and a trove of coronavirus metrics on infections, illnesses, and deaths. “We have rich individual-level data that allows us to provide real-world evidence in near–real time,” Balicer says. (The United Kingdom also compiles a wealth of data. But its vaccination campaign ramped up later than Israel’s, making its current situation less reflective of what the future may portend; and it has used three different vaccines, making its data harder to parse.) Now, the effects of waning immunity may be beginning to show in Israelis vaccinated in early winter; a preprint published last month by scientists at MHS found that protection from COVID-19 infection during June and July dropped in proportion to the length of time since an individual was vaccinated. People vaccinated in January had a 2.26 times greater risk for a breakthrough infection than those vaccinated in April. (Potential confounders include the fact that the very oldest Israelis, with the weakest immune systems, were vaccinated first.) At the same time, cases in the country, which were scarcely registering at the start of summer, have been doubling every week to 10 days since then, with the Delta variant responsible for most of them. They have now soared to their highest level since mid-February, with hospitalizations and intensive care unit admissions beginning to follow. How much of the current surge is due to waning immunity versus the power of the Delta variant to spread like wildfire is uncertain. What is clear is that “breakthrough” cases are not the rare events the term implies. As of 15 August, 514 Israelis were hospitalized with severe or critical COVID-19, a 31% increase from just 4 days earlier. Of the 514, 59% were fully vaccinated. Of the vaccinated, 87% were 60 or older. “There are so many breakthrough infections that they dominate and most of the hospitalized patients are actually vaccinated,” says Uri Shalit, a bioinformatician at the Israel Institute of Technology (Technion) who has consulted on COVID-19 for the government. “One of the big stories from Israel [is]: ‘Vaccines work, but not well enough.’” To try to tame the surge, Israel has turned to booster shots, starting on 30 July with people 60 and older and, last Friday, expanding to people 50 and older. As of Monday, nearly 1 million Israelis had received a third dose, according to the Ministry of Health. Global health leaders including Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director-general of the World Health Organization, have pleaded with developed countries not to administer boosters given that most of the world’s population hasn’t received even a single dose. The wealthy nations pondering or already administering booster vaccines so far mostly reserve them for special populations such as the immune compromised and health care workers. Still, studies suggest boosters might have broader value. Researchers have shown that boosting induces a prompt surge in antibodies, which are needed in the nose and throat as a crucial first line of defense against infection. The Israeli government’s decision to start boosting those 50 and older was driven by preliminary Ministry of Health data indicating people over age 60 who have received a third dose were half as likely as their twice-vaccinated peers to be hospitalized in recent days, Mevorach says. CHS also reported that out of a sample of more than 4500 patients who received boosters, 88% said any side effects from the third shot were no worse, and sometimes milder, than from the second.
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