[In the traditional theorie's of atonement, Jesus' crucifixion and sacrifice pays for or defeats sin. ]If this is God’s Word is only theory to you then I fear you have only faith when knowledge available.
You have been on this site for more than 3 months… plenty of time to learn that the name JESUS could not have existed at the beginning of the C.E.. the Son’s name was Yahowsha.
HERE is a link for your investigation on that. And you are expected to know this as shown by Yahowah’s own words:
“Who is He who has actually descended from and who is He who reliably ascends to heaven? Who is He who genuinely gathers and receives the spiritual in the palms of His hands? Who is He who wraps up and envelops, actually giving birth by way of the waters in the garment? Who is He finally who comes onto the scene, stands upright, completes the mission, enabling others to stand without ceasing, establishing the entire earth? What is His personal and proper name? And what is His Son’s personal and proper name? Surely you know.” (Masal / Word Pictures / Proverbs 30:4)[Would it be possible to entertain an alternative view of the purpose of the crucifixion and resurrection?]Anything is debatable, as long as your position is supported by the Towrah, Prophets and Psalms (TPP). But your postulation below is quite spare in details of your own thoughts, not to mention the details of support. It is supported only by the Christian ‘new testament’ (wrong reference and all (Matthew not Mark)). The ‘NT’ can only be trusted as much as it is verified by the TPP.
[Jesus speaks of providing the "sign of Jonah" to the current "wicked generation" [Mark (12: 39-42 ) and Luke (11. 29-32)]. As in Nineveh, such a sign would serve as a means of bringing about repentance, in this case by demonstrating Jesus' complete obedience to God's will, God's faithfulness to his servant, God's power and willingness to sustain life, Jesus' status as a true prophet of God, and God's dominion over the Jews and the Gentiles alike (by superceding the will of the Sanhedrin and Rome). ]
I wish you would have filled this out more, so I was sure of what you are proposing.
* What was the sign of Jonah? Did Nineveh (these were gentiles by the way) repent because of Jonah’s time in the fish. There is no reference that they were told about the fish in the original story (below). They repented because they took Jonah’s telling of God’s Word as true.
*’signs’ do not promote repentance, they promote religion (an evil thing in Yah’s eyes)
*The rest of this is mute.
Jon 3:1 And the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the second time, saying,
Jon 3:2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.
Jon 3:3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.
Jon 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
Jon 3:5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
Jon 3:6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
Jon 3:7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
Jon 3:8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
Jon 3:9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
Jon 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
[Any thoughts?]PLENTY:
I think you are a Christian thinking this is a religious forum. This is an anti-christian, anti-religious site!
I think you are trying to make sense of Christian dogma (sorry, but it doesn’t make any sense). Religion is men twisting Yah’s words to control other men.
I think you don’t understand all of what the crucifixion was about. (see 1,2,3 below) This is not theoretical, this is written plainly and supported many times in the TPP. Your ‘theory’ covers the fulfillment of the first 3 of 7 of Yahowah’s annual appointed meeting times. Learning link
HERE1. Passover = no death = eternal life
2. Matsah = removal of sin = perfection
3. Bikuwrym = firstborn = adoption/’birthed into Yah’s covenant family’
[As an aside, is it logical that any of the Gospels individually, in addition to the old testament, would be sufficient to bring a person into God's graces? This, after all, is more than the earliest oral tradition Christians would have even had]Dude, NO. There are no gospels in His WORD. His testament is not old. There is no grace in Yahowah’s plan. Yahowsha is Towrah observant!! He railed against the JEWISH religious establishment because it was not Towrah observant and if He were here today He would rail against the Christians as well. Learning link
HERE.
[Thank you]
You’re welcome to come and question anything. Just don’t expect any religious viewpoint here. (And don’t come looking to spread one.)
Allen