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DD wrote: Shalom Yada, I am writing to ask you what is your understanding of the so called planet x causing massive damage to earth in 2017. I know that you have stated that the asteroid Apophis will strike the earth in 2029 in the middle of the tribulation, but are you aware of this planet x speculation and that it is a brown dwarf star(a binary twin of our sun) accompanied by its own solar system which is already inside our solar system and should cause major damage in a year or two? Many are saying it is the reason that the elites have built underground bases and that it is spoken of in Revelation as the dragon and that it is what the kings and great men are hiding from in the rocks(underground bases) in Revelation. I really would like to hear your opinion on this matter.
Peace to YAHOWAHs family,
Yada wrote: I'm not an expert on every theory, not even on most theories, but I'm 100% certain based upon what you have said and what I've seen in passing, that this is a conspiracy theory, not science. There is no planet x. 2017 will come and go without a brown dwarf, a symbiotic solar system, or planet x causing any damage, much less massive damage to earth.
So no, I do not think that there is any merit to this or to the idea that Revelation was addressing underground government bases.
It is interesting, however, to note that the promoters of Nibiru / PlanetX are also promoting Christian interpretations of prophecy and extraterrestrials.
Sorry. But there is nothing to this apart from myth and fantasy.
Yada
I thought you might find this interesting. It is from Wiki...
The idea that a planet-sized object will collide with or closely pass by Earth in the near future is not supported by any scientific evidence and has been rejected as pseudoscience and an Internet hoaxby astronomers and planetary scientists.[2][3] The idea was first put forward in 1995 by Nancy Lieder,[4][5] founder of the website ZetaTalk. Lieder describes herself as a contactee with the ability to receive messages from extraterrestrials from the Zeta Reticulistar system through an implant in her brain. She states that she was chosen to warn mankind that the object would sweep through the innerSolar System in May 2003 (though that date was later postponed) causing Earth to undergo a physical pole shift that would destroy most of humanity.[6] The prediction has subsequently spread beyond Lieder's website and has been embraced by numerous Internet doomsday groups, most of which linked the event to the 2012 phenomenon. Since 2012, the Nibiru cataclysm has frequently reappeared in the popular media; usually linked to newsmaking astronomical objects such asComet ISON or Planet Nine. Although the name "Nibiru" is derived from the works of the ancient astronaut writer Zecharia Sitchin and his interpretations of Babylonian and Sumerian mythology, he denied any connection between his work and various claims of a coming apocalypse. The idea of the Nibiru encounter originated with Nancy Lieder, a Wisconsinwoman who claims that as a girl she was contacted by gray extraterrestrialscalled Zetas, who implanted a communications device in her brain. In 1995, she founded the website ZetaTalk to disseminate her ideas.[7] Lieder first came to public attention on Internet newsgroups during the build-up to Comet Hale–Bopp's 1997 perihelion. She stated, claiming to speak as the Zetas,[8]that "The Hale–Bopp comet does not exist. It is a fraud, perpetrated by those who would have the teeming masses quiescent until it is too late. Hale–Bopp is nothing more than a distant star, and will draw no closer."[9] She claimed that the Hale–Bopp story was manufactured to distract people from the imminent arrival of a large planetary object, "Planet X", which would soon pass by Earth and destroy civilization.[9] After Hale–Bopp's perihelion revealed it as one of the brightest and longest-observed comets of the last century,[10] Lieder removed the first two sentences of her initial statement from her site, though they can still be found in Google's archives.[9] Her claims eventually made the New York Times.[11] Lieder described Planet X as roughly four times the size of the Earth, and said that its closest approach would occur on May 27, 2003, resulting in the Earth's rotation ceasing for exactly 5.9 terrestrial days. This would be followed by the Earth's pole destabilising in a pole shift (a physical pole shift, with the Earth's pole physically moving, rather than ageomagnetic reversal) caused by magnetic attraction between the Earth's core and the magnetism of the passing planet. This in turn would disrupt the Earth's magnetic core and lead to subsequent displacement of the Earth's crust.[12] After Lieder, the first person to propagate her Planet X idea was Mark Hazlewood, a former member of the ZetaTalk community, who in 2001 published a book titled Blindsided: Planet X Passes in 2003. Lieder would later accuse him of being a confidence trickster.[13] A Japanese cult called the Pana Wave Laboratory, which blocked off roads and rivers with white cloths to protect itself from electromagnetic attacks, also warned that the world would end in May 2003 after the approach of a tenth planet.[14] Roughly a week before the supposed arrival of Planet X in May 2003, Lieder appeared on KROQ-FM radio in Los Angeles, and advised listeners to euthanize their pets in anticipation of the event as she had done.[15] This led theFortean Times to conclude that she had put down her dog(s) to save them from further suffering during the Pole Shift.[16] Later, in a 2004 interview she said that she had euthanized her dog because it was acting aggressively.[17]After the 2003 date passed without incident, Lieder said that it was merely a "white lie ... to fool the establishment."[18]She refused to disclose the true date, saying that to do so would give those in power enough time to declare martial law and trap people in cities during the shift, leading to their deaths.[19] Though Lieder herself has not specified a new date for the object's return, many groups have taken up her idea and cited their own dates. One frequently cited date was December 21, 2012. This date had many apocalyptic associations, as it was the end of a cycle (baktun) in thelong count in the Mayan calendar. Several writers published books connecting the encounter with 2012.[20] Despite that date having passed, many websites still contend that Nibiru/Planet X is en route to Earth.[21] In 2012, Lieder claimed that U.S. President Barack Obama futilely attempted to announce the presence of Nibiru near the sun.[22] After 2012, she claimed that several world leaders had intended to announce the presence of Nibiru near the sun on October 20, 2014. Two weeks after the supposed date of announcement, she claimed that it did not occur because of consternation amongst the establishment.[23] Although Lieder originally referred to the object as "Planet X", it has become deeply associated with Nibiru, a planet from the works of ancient astronaut proponentZecharia Sitchin, particularly his book The 12th Planet. According to Sitchin's interpretation of Babylonian religious texts, which contradicts conclusions reached by credited scholars on the subject,[24][25] a giant planet (called Nibiru or Marduk) passes by Earth every 3,600 years and allows its sentient inhabitants to interact with humanity. These beings, which Sitchin identified with the Annunaki of Sumerian myth, would become humanity's first gods.[26] Lieder first made the connection between Nibiru and her Planet X on her site in 1996 ("Planet X does exist, and it is the 12th Planet, one and the same.").[27] However, Sitchin, who died in 2010, denied any connection between his work and Lieder's claims. In 2007, partly in response to Lieder's proclamations, Sitchin published a book, The End of Days, which set the time for the last passing of Nibiru by Earth at 556 BC, which would mean, given the object's supposed 3,600-year orbit, that it would return sometime around AD 2900.[28] He did however say that he believed that the Annunaki might return earlier by spaceship, and that the timing of their return would coincide with the shift from the astrological Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius, sometime between 2090 and 2370.[29] Astronomers reject the idea of Nibiru, and have made efforts to inform the public that there is no threat to Earth.[30]They point out that such an object so close to Earth would be easily visible to the naked eye. A planet such as Nibiru would create noticeable effects in the orbits of the outer planets.[31] Some counter this by claiming that the object has been concealed behind the Sun for several years, though this would be geometrically impossible.[20] Most photographs showing "Nibiru" by the Sun are in fact of lens flares, false images of the Sun created by reflections within the lens.[32] Astronomer Mike Brown notes that if this object's orbit were as described, it would only have lasted in the Solar System for a million years or so before Jupiter expelled it, and that there is no way another object's magnetic field could have such an effect on Earth.[33] Lieder's assertions that the approach of Nibiru would cause the Earth's rotation to stop or its axis to shift violate the laws of physics. In his rebuttal of Immanuel Velikovsky's Worlds in Collision, which made the same claim that the Earth's rotation could be stopped and then restarted, Carl Sagan noted that, "the energy required to brake the Earth is not enough to melt it, although it would result in a noticeable increase in temperature: The oceans would [be] raised to the boiling point of water ... [Also,] how does the Earth get started up again, rotating at approximately the same rate of spin? The Earth cannot do it by itself, because of the law of theconservation of angular momentum."[34] In a 2009 interview with the Discovery Channel, Mike Brown noted that, while it is not impossible that the Sun has a distant planetary companion, such an object would have to be lying very far from the observed regions of the Solar System to have no detectable gravitational effect on the other planets. A Mars-sized object could lie undetected at 300 AU (10 times the distance of Neptune); a Jupiter-sized object at 30,000 AU. To travel 1000 AU in two years, an object would need to be moving at 2400 km/s – faster than the galactic escape velocity. At that speed, any object would be shot out of the Solar System, and then out of the Milky Way galaxy into intergalactic space.[35] Many believers in the imminent approach of Planet X/Nibiru accuse NASA of deliberately covering up visual evidence of its existence.[36] One such accusation involves the IRAS infrared space observatory, launched in 1983. The satellite briefly made headlines due to an "unknown object" that was at first described as "possibly as large as the giant planetJupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this Solar System".[37] This newspaper article has been cited by proponents of the Nibiru cataclysm, beginning with Lieder herself, as evidence for the existence of Nibiru.[38]However, further analysis revealed that of several initially unidentified objects, nine were distant galaxies and the tenth was "galactic cirrus"; none were found to be Solar System bodies.[39] Another accusation frequently made by websites predicting the collision is that the U.S. government built the South Pole Telescope (SPT) to track Nibiru's trajectory, and that the object has been imaged optically.[40] However, the SPT (which is not funded by NASA) is a radio telescope, and cannot take optical images. Its South Pole location was chosen due to the low-humidity environment, and there is no way an approaching object could be seen onlyfrom the South Pole.[41] The "picture" of Nibiru posted on YouTube was revealed, in fact, to be a Hubble image of the expanding light echo around the star V838 Mon.[40] Another conspiracy claim regards a patch of missing data in Google Sky near the constellation of Orion, which has often been cited as evidence that Nibiru has been redacted. However, the same region of sky can still be viewed by thousands of amateur astronomers. A scientist at Google said that the missing data is due to a glitch in the stitching software used to piece the images together.[42] Another piece of claimed evidence drawn from Google Sky is the carbon star Yada Leonis, which is the brightest object in the 10 μm infrared sky and is frequently claimed to be Nibiru.[43]
Roy wrote: Yada, I agree. These sorts of whacky theories that don’t even pass elementary reasoning are growing exponentially. An example of this is a web-site Terri sent me a few days ago: www.deepinsidetherabbithole.com. My response to her about one of the stupidest I have attached. I wonder about the increasing number of conspiracy theories. Is it mental illness? Drugs? Lack of a sound education? Or is there something even more sinister behind the growth in this stupidity and inability to reason? One obvious explanation may be to have ridiculous conspiracies in the publics’ face, conditioning the majority of the populace to reject all conspiracy theories including the few genuine and very dangerous conspiracy facts, at the same time lumping those who expose them into the kook army of conspiracy nuts. The number that involve Israel, Jews and ‘Zionists’ also seems to be increasing and accepted without pushback or even comment on many blogs. Incidentally, magnetic fields of a static kind such as the earth’s field fall off quasi-exponentially. Thus for a passing planet to have any magnetic effect on earth it would have to crash into earth – in which case we wouldn’t be worried about magnetic effects. Roy Yada wrote: Roy,
The wet rotating ball example is typical of the half truth out of context approach that underlies the promotion of most every myth. It is the approach Satan used in the Garden, that Paul used in his letters, that the 9-11 conspiracy theorists use in their mythology, and that the planet x'ers use to confuse the unthinking.
To expose and condemn such myths requires a reasoned analysis of the facts, all of the facts logically considered, which is something most people are unwilling to do. It is why so few people know Yah. Slight of hand leads the unthinking away from Him. And the way to Him requires considerable effort and thought.
The reason conspiracy theories are being promoted is to undermine the credibility of everyone who is critical of the accepted way - the way of politics and religion, multiculturalism and militarism, tolerance and political correctness, of wrong being right and of right being wrong, of Hilary vs. Trump. Those who oppose the group think are all swept into the same smoldering trash can. If nothing else, our testimony on behalf of Yah is tarnished by the smoke spewn by those who challenge government lies with lies of their own.
The reason conspiracy theories are accepted is because people have been conditioned into accepting rather than thinking. It is the easiest way to control the masses. Most people have lost the ability to be rational. They no longer think. The fact that gravity wasn't considered as a means to constrain the influence of centrifugal force demonstrates just how easy it is to deceive with half truths.
Just as religion and politics serve Satan, so do conspiracy theories. I avoid them like the plague. I don't want to be associated with them or with those who promote them because they undermine the credibility needed to properly present Yah's testimony to informed and rational people.
Flat Earth, PlanetX, the Mayan calendar, and 9-11 are all examples of myths that resonate in a growing percentage of people, confusing them the same way as others have been confused by religion and politics.
Yada
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