Is 'leaven' restricted to just yeast used for breadmaking? There is yeast in wine, too. Is baking soda or baking powder forbidden? We used La Tortilla Factory corn tortillas (with a little wheat gluten added) this year for our unleavened bread; they were very good.

Thank you for that information, Michael. I find it useful and appreciate your sharing it.

Sounds like an excellent do-it-yourself opportunity for the sincere seeker.

Found this link that has some interesting information on Passover: Passover Series

Seems to answer a lot of questions regarding the Passover practice of the early followers of the messiah.

Sounds like you guys are going to have a great time. It will just be us (I think) and we tend to focus our activities around teaching the children the meaning of the Feasts. We have dinner and the children get pretty excited about going into Unleavened Bread because they love matzah! We usually buy some as well as try our hand at making it. Right now, all of our attempts have not turned out well, but the children enjoy it nonetheless.

Upcoming P/UB/FF bump...
Sundown Tuesday 3/26? ...If the barley abib 3/12.

I just noticed something else.

H24
אביב
'âbı̂yb
BDB Definition:
1) fresh, young barley ears, barley
2) month of ear-forming, of greening of crop, of growing green Abib, month of exodus and passover (March or April)
Part of Speech: noun masculine

H24
אביב
'âbı̂yb
aw-beeb'
From an unused root (meaning to be tender); green, that is a young ear of grain; hence the name of the month Abib or Nisan: - Abib, ear, green ears of corn.

In ancient Hebrew the symbolism is aleph-beyt-yod-beyt (Rams head – house,tent – forearm reaching down – house, tent). Strength of the house reaching down to the house.

Shalom

Had clouds in the west earlier tonight, and admittedly should have checked later around 7:45-moonset, so didn't observe but looks like:
http://www.timeanddate.c....html?obj=moon&n=398

CoSpgs
Date Moonrise Moonset Time Altitude Distance Illuminated Phase
Mar 12, 2013 7:24 AM 8:21 PM 1:48 PM 55.3° 239,419 1.2%
Mar 13, 2013 7:56 AM 9:22 PM 2:36 PM 59.7° 242,202 4.6%

Moon set here was well after dark and 1.2% would be visible if really clear.
Looks like I'll move things up a day.

Seems plenty of witnesses:
http://www.truthofyahweh.org/moon.htm

Edited by user Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:46:53 AM(UTC)  | Reason: clarify

I was just thinking:

Since there were so many lambs to sacrifice on a Passover (230,000 -- so I hear) it would take way too much time to sacrifice all the lambs on the same "14th day."

Since the first day of the first month is difficult to determine, I suppose the sacrificing began at sundown (the very beginning of the 14th day from the dark moon) and would have continued for two or three days. I suppose folks would prepare and eat their lamb on the day it was sacrificed; therefore, there would be three different Passover meals being celebrated in Jerusalem. That may be one reason why the written accounts of Pesach/UB, 33 CE, seem to be confusing as to which day they are talking about.

Then, what did they do about the 1st day of UB? Did each family celebrate it on the 1st day, or the 2nd day, or the 3rd day?

??????

Sarah,

Where did you get the number 230,000 lambs were sacrificed? What was the population of Jerusalem during Pesach? Josephus claimed 256,500 lambs and 3 million people but I don’t know which year. This number is probably highly exaggerated.

This website talks about this subject.

http://www.keithhunt.com/Lambmany.html

One year old lambs in the USA weight about 100 pounds live weight. There is about 35 pounds of meat on a 100 pound lamb. 230,000 x 35 pounds = 8,050,000 pounds. This means that each person (of the 3 million) would have had 2.68 pounds of meat to eat. So either everyone, including women and children, was a glutton or the number is highly exaggerated.

http://www.okesfamilyfarms.com/Services.html

http://www.sheep101.info/201/lambmarketing.html

A more realistic and accurate estimate of the population of Jerusalem might be 40,000 full time swelling to 250,000 for Pesach.

Let’s say that people weren’t total gluttons and ate 1/2 pound of lamb per person. Then the number of lambs required for 250,000 people is 3,571. According to the first articles estimate of 600 lambs per hour processing rate would mean that 3,571 lambs could be processed in 6 hours.

Of course on the first Pesach the lambs weren’t slaughtered in the Temple because they didn’t have one. So I don’t think that it is a requirement for the lamb to be slaughtered in the Temple. They didn’t have a Tabernacle yet either.

Exo 12:1 And יהוה spoke to Mosheh and to Aharon in the land of Mitsrayim, saying,
Exo 12:2 “This month is the beginning of months for you, it is the first month of the year for you.
Exo 12:3 “Speak to all the congregation of Yisra’ĕl, saying, ‘On the tenth day of this month each one of them is to take for himself a lamb, according to the house of his father, a lamb for a household.
Exo 12:4 ‘And if the household is too small for the lamb, let him and his neighbour next to his house take it according to the number of the beings, according to each man’s need you make your count for the lamb.
Exo 12:5 ‘Let the lamb be a perfect one, a year old male. Take it from the sheep or from the goats.
Exo 12:6 ‘And you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month. Then all the assembly of the congregation of Yisra’ĕl shall kill it between the evenings.
Exo 12:7 ‘And they shall take some of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and on the lintel of the houses where they eat it.
Exo 12:8 ‘And they shall eat the flesh on that night, roasted in fire – with unleavened bread and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
Exo 12:9 ‘Do not eat it raw, nor boiled at all with water, but roasted in fire, its head with its legs and its inward parts.
Exo 12:10 ‘And do not leave of it until morning, and what remains of it until morning you are to burn with fire.
Exo 12:11 ‘And this is how you eat it: your loins girded, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. And you shall eat it in haste. It is the Passover of יהוה.

Shalom

This is only my opinion, so FWIW...

but here's how I'm celebrating this year:
1st Cresent moon spotted after sundown 3/12, Barley reported more than abib in the Negev, Jordan, etc. So start of the 1st month - Happy New Year!

<all sundown to sundown>
Day 1 3/12-13

Day 10 3-21/22 Purchase Lamb(chop) and kabob items and bring into house (marinate,fridge). Recite Exodus 12:1-6, John 12:12-16

Day 14 after sundown 3/25 Nice meal, late night "watch". Recite Matt 26 (correct v17 to "before" if bad translation). OK some celebrate pesach this night - sure would be easier if Matt 26 mentioned lamb, lol.

Day 14 3/26 4-5pm prepare lamb kabobs, unleavened bread cook so ready right around dusk recite Matt 27:45-60

Day 15 3/26 after sundown. 1st day of UB. Lamb kabobs, unleavened bread (next 7 days) wine. Recite Exodus 12:6-15, Num 33:3-5. Party, don't go out of the house, consume all lamb before sunup.

Day 15 3/27 Still first day of UB take day off work. Rest, enjoy. Some consider FF next day after this high sabbath

3/29-30 regular sabbath occuring during UB.

3/30-31 morrow after regular sabbath FF (start of omer count 7 regular sabbaths - OK I prefer this metaphor meaning). Just occurred to me that also possible FF could be morrow after high sabbath and afterwards count 7 regular sabbaths....so FF is not real clear, but already planned FF this day. Only first fruit we have high in mountains is trout - go fishing, enjoy trout dinner. Recite Lev 23:10-17, John 20:15-17

Day 21 4/1-2 High sabbath take 4/2 off work. Rest enjoy.

I'm more and more starting to see FF as being the same day as Passover, but I could be way off on this one. But I know what I am studying next week during my time off

But what about the 'full moon'. Doesn't Passover afternoon have to be at the full moon?

Just thinking more of what you said James, consider these verses:

John 13

King James Version (KJV)





John 18

King James Version (KJV)





John 19

King James Version (KJV)

Thanks MadDog. Just more passages affirming Passover slaughter late afternoon 14th day, and eaten after sundown on 15th day (1st day of UB).
Not sure what the "last supper" was, and the "watch" after when they LEFT THE HOUSE going to the mount of olives.

Exo 12:21 And Mosheh called for all the elders of Yisra’ĕl and said to them, “Go out and take lambs for yourselves according to your clans, and slaughter the Passover lamb.
Exo 12:22 “And you shall take a bunch of hyssop, and dip it in the blood that is in the basin, and strike the lintel and the two doorposts with the blood that is in the basin, and you, none of you shall go out of the door of his house until morning.

I noticed that Ken Powers "Owners Manuel" isn't listed anymore.

I think one of the High Priest's duties was waving a bread offering with wine at the temple.

I think the "Owners Manuel" listed priestly duties in detail.

You might want to check out these links regarding an analysis of Passover:

30. Passover – Exodus Interrogated I
31. Passover – Exodus Interrogated II
32. Passover – Exodus Interrogated III

Yada uses the tables compiled by Yow'el, friend and webmaster of Yada Yah, they are usually very accurate in fact this is the first year I have seen them differ from my observations. They are set according to the visibility of the New Moon from he temple mount in Israel, which may or may not be visible to those of us in other parts of the world at the same time. This year is an example, I was able to see the first sliver of the new moon a day earlier than predicted.

http://www.yadayah.com/Y...to_Meet_God_Miqraey.YHWH

I think most all agree the 14th day of abib starts tonight at sundown, and the FESTIVAL of Unleavened Bread starts tomorrow night at sundown (15th day).

There are just different interpretations for timing on when Yah instructs us to "KILL THE PASSOVER".


I was studying links posted above to Yahu Ranger's Report Exodus Interrogated, stating - like forensic investigations must be approached without bias...and then constantly referred to the DAY/FESTIVAL of Passover. When I got to the verses stating Yah's instructions to "KILL THE PASSOVER", got my funnybone when thinking of it that way. Also funny how YRR interpreted to eat unleavened bread for 8 days then shortly after cited scripture that tells us 7 days. Then with quick scan later never addresses Num 33:3-5 which contradicts his timeline and interpretation. Interesting read though and gives some verses needing further study, even amplified with attention to stems and moods.

Looks like the YRR has posted a reply at the bottom of the Article.

Link: 31. Passover - Exodus Interrogated II

All Family Members:

Well, I attempted to relate the true meaning of Pesach, Matzah and Bikkurim this past Monday evening (Yes, Monday since most people who do not know believe Passover to be two nights!). I started off the festivities with a commentary on Pesach and that it is the participation in the sacrifice that is the true meaning; That the sacrifice was for those who embrace Yah and what was done for us; That Matzah represents the removal of corruption from us; That Matzah is about consuming Yah's undefiled perfect Word to cleanse our souls of curruption; So that we can be part of Yah's Family. What the maror (bitter herbs) represent; The bitterness that was endured not only by the Israelites in Mitzrayim, but by the sacrifice of the lamb, and now by a world that is consumed by bitterness!

Unfortunately, most people in my home were not receptive at all to this enlightenment! It is truly sad that so many are just lost. This is my family and it really pains me to see them so closed in by years of conditioning and brainwashing, although they really think that they are free and open-minded!! Unbelievable!!!!

I did go through a modern version of a Haggadah (The book Jews use to conduct a Passover meal, or Seder), but offered plenty of commentary and replaced parts with truth and the words Lord and Adonai with Yahowah.

The good news here is that when I asked my children what God's name is, they both said Yahowah!! Most of those in my home that evening either did not know His name, or laughed because it just sounded silly to them!

There were two Catholic women there as well: My sister-in-law and my wife's cousin's wife (with tattoos and body piercings!!).

But, I made it clear that ALL who thirst for The Truth and want to have a relationship with our Creator can participate in the Pesach sacrifice! It is open to all those who are "hungry" for Yah!

Needless to say, it was quite and interesting evening!!

Yah Blesses Those Who Know...

As we approach the Pesach festival I am going to be the only one in our household observing the miqra. My wife is at this point more interested in thwarting my efforts then helping me observe. He pastor has convinced her I am involved in a deluded cult, and if she can just stop me from observing the Torah things will go back to normal. Too late for that! However she is going to assemble the items as I promised her if not I will buy a lamb, slaughter it in our front yard and paint the door lintel and upright frames of our front door. So as to not drive me farther into my delusion, I will be eating a lamb which I plan to grill myself, she hates lamb so probably pizza for her. One issue she refuses to remove all leavening from the house. I know Pesach is part physical and part metaphor, but you would think after doing her pagan festivals during 30 years of marriage doing one 7 day festival each year would not bother her so much.

I have to thank her pastor, he has been a real blind guide, telling her that in my observing the miqra I am going to hell for rejecting the work of the messiah. I asked her pastor the following questions to which he had no solid answers: Why did Yahowsha cry out my God, my God, why has though forsaken me, what was the sign of Jonah, why did no one recognize Yahowsha if he resurrected bodily, why did he say don't cling to me as i have not ascended to my father?

My challenge; provide the answers using scripture no commentaries allowed. If he can answer those questions I will come back to his church and forget this delusional covenant (his term describing the covenant).

Last year while planning for a practice run at Unleavened Bread, I figured that Chinese and Mexican food should be free of all yeast. Obviously the hamburgers, hot dogs, and sandwiches are out because of the bread. But a taco, with corn shell, beef, lettuce, cheese, and maybe tomato - pretty plain that doesn't contain yeast. Or a burrito with a flour tortilla, beef or chicken, beans, cheese, and maybe other vegetables inside - no yeast there, either. An extra benefit with Mexican - get some salsa, break up the matzo, and get some flavor with matzo chips and salsa! Chow mein noodles or rice, with chicken, beef, vegetables - that should all be yeast-free, too. For dinner, a beef steak with lettuce salad (and no croutons), and hash browns (potatoes) is another yeast-free meal. Even Popeye's fried chicken, I just skip getting biscuits with it. For breakfast, last year I had cereal with milk or oatmeal a few times, other times fruit and bacon or sausage (at least no yeast in the breakfast meat). I have turkey sausage available this year. I suppose I could even have chili for lunch one day, but I would check to make sure there was no yeast in the ingredients, though from what Yada wrote elsewhere, it looks like only yeast in bread is what has to be avoided.