Rather than continue to discuss (off topic) in YY letters, I thought this deserved its very own thread, Here's a review:
encounterHim: I was just thinking on this yesterday, Yah certainly signed it in blood, alot of blood on Passover. I mean, to the bone. So what's to think about? A little piece of skin is really nothing when you consider His efforts toward us and all He's done, and will do, fullfilling His agreement. We only have to remove something not visible to most, and really not tangible in my opinion.
Good luck, B, if you decide to go for it. Like yada said, there are men here that have had it done that can better address it. I was lucky, not in the Covenant then, but lucky I was young.
encounterHim:
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Apologies to any offended. Maybe I should look for a better word than, "luck."
Gad: "fortune," a Bab. god.
Original Word: גַּד
Part of Speech: Proper Name Masculine
Transliteration: Gad
Phonetic Spelling: (gad)
Short Definition: Fortune
cgb2: No prob EH. While there is many things I won't compromise on (like YHWH, Yahowsha, set apart etc...and especially substituting Yahowah with "the LORD" <ha BAAL...the adversaries title and ambitions>....I've already been down that rathole of studying the sheer amount of english words with pagan roots.
I even got off in the weeds of substituting one religion for another, with a weekly group of folks who let Paul/Sha'ul color their world in that (another) covenant had already been renewed (instead of yet future), and taking verses about pure lips, no mention of the Lords ever again upon his return and such. It was comical how often we would resort to pantomine, spelling the first few letters, and the guessing games, and how to decribe a day in the week. Most people are not even aware or think of pagan gods in thier use of modern english. However if I ever run into someone who speaks ancient tuetonic I'll will be sure not to refer to God as gott :^)
encounterHim: Thanks man!
I always appreciate your help. I found a couple of real nice vids. Some I'm not in agreement with, but the over all message is worth consideration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojf5PXBH47U and the one in the right scroll bar titled..Christians are sealed with
cgb2: That's a great video, even affirms my point since since the context of several of those verses are about His return and renewal of the covenant (yet future).
Looking back I squandered way too much time on learning what was wrong to the point I couldn't even present what was right and the one path in simplified form...I'm not even sure I knew it myself. Talk about straining out a knat and swallowing a camel (interesting parable since both are unclean for food).
My message probably came out as religious (don't say this, this practice is wrong), and although I sensed Paul annuled the Torah, even paused for a long time considering the angle that Paul was "pro-torah just misunderstood" just to get along. I finally later come to my senses, left this group, never to return, after a heated argument about Paul/Shaw'ul. Giving the strongest evidence, even reading all the passage of Jer 30 & 31 chapter (clearly yet future, only to have them say the chapters should be split up different - divorcing the dream from interpretation). Absolutely impenetrable.
There is great wisdom in a recent point of yours - don't attack their religion, instead show them Abrahams example, unblemished lamb - as if there is such a thing, 'cept the Son, etc. I regret getting bogged down in that group, thereby really messing up my approach to many xtian friends and family.
cgb2: ...and the brilliant simplicity (of your post):
Enter the door, cross the threshhold into matza, become one of his firstfruits.
We could also add:
be washed and empowered by the spirit, shout for joy and sound the warning, being reconcilled unto him, camping out with Him throughout eternity in his shelter.
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encounterHim: ^
When I heard Yada mention, "not even a nano second passes by and you enter matza after passover." I knew Yah was trying to say that they are all interlinked for us.
As far as the unblimished lamb, my wife possed that question to me. "how long would one search out that lamb?" It got me thinking, there is no such animal alive
in all creation. So Yah was being metaphoric in His example for us.
I laugh when I think about that one hebrew that didn't get it. For months he was grooming this lamb as being perfect and getting it home for the family to enjoy its
company before it became nourishment to find out just before the sacrifice, the lambs bum has a pimple on it..:))
dajstill:
Doing a happy dance - you guys really, really just help me to "simplify" the message! I actually had a xthian friend say "in simple terms, what do you say it takes for salvation". I took 8 paragraphs responding!! His reply was "okay, that is simplified?" So wish I had a do over with you all's simplified response:
" Enter the door, cross the threshold into matza, become one of his firstfruits, be washed and empowered by the spirit, shout for joy and sound the warning, being reconciled unto him, camping out with Him throughout eternity in his shelter.”
LOVE IT!!!!!!