Here's the transcript I get from a member here in the forum without the yr and day on every line.
*** (09:54:24):Welcome to the Yada Chat Room.
Yada says to (09:55:02):
I'm feeling much better so we are good to go today.
Richard McCord says to (09:55:22):
What did you find out about your back?
cgb2 says (09:56:38):
So glad to hear it
James Bowen says to (09:56:45):
good to hear
James Bowen says to (09:56:47):
morning all
cgb2 says (09:56:53):
gm all
Richard McCord says to (09:56:57):
Mornin'.
Yada says to (09:57:21):
I injured a disc doing yard work which caused my muscles to spasm to protect the disc.
Yada says to (09:58:16):
So a realignment plus some treatments to get the muscles to clill out, slowly releaved the pain. Now there is only soreness which is fine.
Richard McCord says to (09:58:41):
Yer gittin' older, hoss. Been there, done that, really glad to hear you got it under control.
Yada says to (09:59:33):
Yep, and I'm going to speak a bit about that in our opening today.
Richard McCord says to (09:59:44):
:)
Jocie says to (10:03:10):
(Tp) Signed in! Shalom, everyone!
Richard McCord says to (10:03:25):
Jocie!
tagim says to (10:03:30):
gm all
Richard McCord says to (10:03:47):
gm
Jocie says to (10:07:56):
Cookie, coffee, Yada, and friends! (F)
James Bowen says to (10:08:43):
that's awesome
James Bowen says to (10:08:52):
it's great being able to share it with your wife
James Bowen says to (10:10:04):
yeah there are about 100 ways to embed it in the html, but they all only work in a very limited environment
James Bowen says to (10:10:41):
in a perfect environment running this browser with this setting
James Bowen says to (10:10:49):
tweaked to this
James Bowen says to (10:10:55):
it's a pain in the butt.
Richard McCord says to (10:11:01):
I thought HTML5 was supposed to be the end-all, be-all solution to all such problems. It's a bit disappointing to learn that isn't the case.
James Bowen says to (10:11:16):
you would think someone one would have come up with a way to do it easily
YHWHsoldier says to (10:11:36):
lol
YHWHsoldier says to (10:11:40):
gc!
James Bowen says to (10:11:50):
yeah there was an attempt made, but it is far from exacting
YHWHsoldier says to (10:11:53):
scribD
James Bowen says to (10:12:39):
and with most if it works in firefox it don't work in IE and vice versa
YHWHsoldier says to (10:12:47):
http://www.grovo.com/YHWHsoldier says to (10:12:50):
???
YHWHsoldier says to (10:13:12):
nice
James Bowen says to (10:15:32):
scribD is blocked by the internet filter here
YHWHsoldier says to (10:15:40):
figures
James Bowen says to (10:15:52):
hope that it being embedded into YY doesn't make YY blocked ehre, that would suck
YHWHsoldier says to (10:16:59):
YadaYaH
Jocie says to (10:17:05):
Larry, are you here? I don't know your user name! 8-|
YHWHsoldier says to (10:17:13):
YaHuWeHsoldier!
Jocie says to (10:17:44):
(})
Richard McCord says to (10:17:48):
That used to drive me bonkers when I worked for The Shaw Group. They blocked so much stuff that my IT buddy and I put together a DSL computer that tapped into a special part of the network and was outside the corporate watchdogs' domain.
YHWHsoldier says to (10:18:04):
remeber "network nany"?
YHWHsoldier says to (10:18:08):
hehe
YHWHsoldier says to (10:18:13):
nanny
James Bowen says to (10:18:49):
yeah, if it does end up blocked I will have to find a way around it, set up some kind of proxy at home and tunnel through that
Richard McCord says to (10:19:28):
The scientists there had their own non-corporate network. It was convenient.
YHWHsoldier says to (10:24:58):
http://www.messagetoeagl...bulletclusterchandra.phpYHWHsoldier says to (10:25:05):
pretty cool
cgb2 says (10:31:07):
and the banksters create the "money" out of thin air as a debt owed to them. Of course they never create enough to pay the interest...
cgb2 says (10:31:57):
so they roll it over & refinance....but we are now nearing the point where exponentially increasing debt will collapse
YHWHsoldier says to (10:35:56):
its ok to them cgb2 because after all the money is gone there is only dirt left and they own the Deeds to the real estate so they dont care
YHWHsoldier says to (10:36:29):
uncloud your title deed and hold it in a solid type of Trust
YHWHsoldier says to (10:36:34):
or lose it
Richard McCord says to (10:36:52):
Moreover, the governments can claim ownership of all private property whenever they want to, can't they?
Richard McCord says to (10:37:26):
Someone?
Richard McCord says to (10:38:11):
Anyone?
YHWHsoldier says to (10:38:12):
Not really, if its propely owned they would have to pay fair market value
Richard McCord says to (10:38:26):
Who is going to oppose them?
cgb2 says (10:38:31):
Yes, failo to pay your land rents...er, property tax...one finds out who really owns it, and who is the "tenant"
cgb2 says (10:38:56):
unless you're fortunate enough to be grandfathered in long ago with allodial title
YHWHsoldier says to (10:39:15):
its just like your car title, if you have a pink slip then you dont own your personal property outright
Richard McCord says to (10:39:43):
My understanding is that, for example, if you live within a certain distance of a railroad track, then railroad authority can take your land whenever they want to.
Richard McCord says to (10:40:10):
They usually offer a "fair price", but they don't have to.
Richard McCord says to (10:41:29):
I know that within a certain distance from the Canadian border here the Border Patrol has the right to drive their SUVs all over your property whenever they want to, tearing up your lawn, crashing through your fences, etc.
Richard McCord says to (10:41:53):
Big stink about that not long ago. The "civilians" lost.
YHWHsoldier says to (10:42:01):
there is recourse against them if they are on your property
YHWHsoldier says to (10:42:18):
yeah you can lose too! lol
Richard McCord says to (10:42:21):
So I'm thinking that property ownership is an illusion.
YHWHsoldier says to (10:42:30):
buy a gun!
Richard McCord says to (10:42:35):
No.
YHWHsoldier says to (10:42:38):
lol
Richard McCord says to (10:43:10):
"They" will let us enjoy the illusion as long as it doesn't impact their agenda.
YHWHsoldier says to (10:43:42):
there ya go so find a place out of theri "impact" zone
Richard McCord says to (10:44:01):
Mars?
YHWHsoldier says to (10:46:03):
your in a decent area up there I think, YaH willput all of us where we need to be so no worries lets just stay dillengent and let our Mom protect us!
cgb2 says (10:46:48):
Interesting to read the declaration of independence and note that compared to the greivences they had against King George are now far worse
YHWHsoldier says to (10:47:04):
yeah it ridiculous
YHWHsoldier says to (10:47:10):
income tax lmao
Richard McCord says to (10:47:26):
That is good advice. But I was speaking of the millions who do not know Yah and who are comfortably self-absorbed, thinking their properties are their own. It is so sad.
YHWHsoldier says to (10:47:49):
we arehere today
cgb2 says (10:48:05):
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
cgb2 says (10:48:49):
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
YHWHsoldier says to (10:48:51):
read: flag with gold fringe and gold ball everywhere!
cgb2 says (10:49:27):
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
cgb2 says (10:49:50):
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
YHWHsoldier says to (10:50:05):
DHS?
cgb2 says (10:50:03):
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
cgb2 says (10:50:32):
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
YHWHsoldier says to (10:50:40):
military checkpoints?
cgb2 says (10:50:50):
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, a
cgb2 says (10:51:11):
instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
YHWHsoldier says to (10:51:21):
tribunals, guantanomo
cgb2 says (10:51:26):
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
cgb2 says (10:51:41):
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
cgb2 says (10:52:06):
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head
YHWHsoldier says to (10:53:48):
Interpol?
cgb2 says (10:54:28):
War on poverty, war on drugs, war on terrorism, war on etc....blackwater, TSA...etc
cgb2 says (10:56:48):
joint training exercise
cgb2 says (10:57:35):
& mutual aggrements
Richard McCord says to (10:57:46):
Who is the "he" to whom you are referring, Chuck?
cgb2 says (10:57:51):
in place, but the shoe hasn;t dropp[ed fully
cgb2 says (11:01:05):
King George RM...were excepts for the declalration of independence list of greivances
Richard McCord says to (11:01:08):
I have come to notice that there are many, many Americans who view the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the U.S. to be on par with Scripture. It defies belief, but it is so.
cgb2 says (11:01:39):
Yeah RM I used to resemble that, but can now see flaws
Richard McCord says to (11:01:51):
As though they were written by "men moved by the holy ghost" or something.
Richard McCord says to (11:02:10):
Scary, because they are otherwise intelligent people.
YHWHsoldier says to (11:02:27):
see when man finally figures something out he also realizes God was already there!
cgb2 says (11:02:52):
Yeah, I was was watching History channel, and seems they were likely more influenced by alcohol & marijauna during the constitutional convention
Richard McCord says to (11:02:59):
To my mind, if someone is not Yah's, then whatever they have to say about something is of marginal importance at best.
Richard McCord says to (11:04:05):
People quote Ernest Hemingway about this or that, and I'm thinking, "Wait a minute. Didn't he kill himself? Why would I listen to his ideas on ANY thing?"
Richard McCord says to (11:04:19):
Just an example.
YHWHsoldier says to (11:04:35):
expereince the Tuwb
Richard McCord says to (11:05:16):
So we learn that the "founding fathers" of this nation were selfish and immoral, like men everywhere, and we get all flustered. It's just nuts.
YHWHsoldier says to (11:06:39):
that is HUGE!
Richard McCord says to (11:07:02):
Isn't it? I think it's so important that I just quoted it on my home page.
cgb2 says (11:08:16):
Man is that the truth, amazing some of the connections associations while I study the word.
YHWHsoldier says to (11:08:59):
nice
James Bowen says to (11:10:51):
it's always when you are dwelling on and thinking about Scripture
YHWHsoldier says to (11:11:52):
have a conversation with God, read towrah.
Richard McCord says to (11:11:53):
What?! No revelations while watching "Amercan Idol"?!
YHWHsoldier says to (11:12:06):
doubt it other than Azab
James Bowen says to (11:12:33):
well the one time I watched American Idol I did have a revelatin, a revelation that there truly was no hope whatsoever for humanity
Richard McCord says to (11:12:34):
Or, "It has been revealed to me that I am wasting time ..."
YHWHsoldier says to (11:13:19):
70 ce?
YHWHsoldier says to (11:13:34):
just another 7 i'm sure no biggie
cgb2 says (11:13:57):
Revelations form Benny Hinn, Kenneth Kopeland, etc if you send a generous donation :D
YHWHsoldier says to (11:14:10):
click here.
YHWHsoldier says to (11:14:17):
now!
YHWHsoldier says to (11:14:32):
hurry your'e on your way to Hell
James Bowen says to (11:14:42):
they all had a revelaiton cgb. They had a revelation that if they where charasmatic enough and told people what they wanted to hear then they could become rich
Richard McCord says to (11:14:55):
I was telling my wife yesterday about the prayer cloths I used to get in the mail all the time. Those guys deserve every second of separation they're going to get.
YHWHsoldier says to (11:15:24):
have a conversation with God, read towrah.
Richard McCord says to (11:15:38):
And then I got ANOTHER one from some Catholic place just last week! I couldn't believe they're still doing that nonsense!
Richard McCord says to (11:16:44):
Even the envelope had all kinds of red underlining all over it, and the whole thrust of it was that it and prayer would solve all our problems. Not a single thing about Yahowah or His Word.
Richard McCord says to (11:19:03):
Baffling as it was, I had to admit that if the senders were not making money hand over fist with their ploy, they wouldn't continue to send our their envelopes. So there are hundreds of thousands of people falling for that wickedness.
YHWHsoldier says to (11:19:34):
right yada.
YHWHsoldier says to (11:19:38):
1st
cgb2 says (11:19:50):
In a email dialog just after discussing CONTEXT..I got the hebrews "and abraham gave a tenth of all to Melkezidech. To which I replied:
YHWHsoldier says to (11:20:04):
everytime, walk with Yah, 1st walk away from mans BS
cgb2 says (11:20:30):
OK next time I recue Lot, I will give a tenth of the spoils to your favorite religious merchant :D
Richard McCord says to (11:20:45):
Exactly, cgb2.
cgb2 says (11:21:08):
and ended it with "Mr. Context"
Richard McCord says to (11:21:56):
He was smart enough to understand how much smarter his Creator must be.
Richard McCord says to (11:22:27):
That's relevant.
Richard McCord says to (11:23:36):
What does "ad hominem" mean?
YHWHsoldier says to (11:24:06):
kill the messenger
Richard McCord says to (11:24:20):
Wow. Okay. Thanks!
YHWHsoldier says to (11:24:29):
a prophet has no honor in his own community
cgb2 says (11:24:47):
An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it.[1] Ad hominem reasoning is normally d
cgb2 says (11:25:04):
Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as a logical fallacy
YHWHsoldier says to (11:25:33):
do as i say not as i do
Richard McCord says to (11:25:58):
"They think they will be heard for their much speaking"
cgb2 says (11:26:26):
Abusive ad hominem (also called personal abuse or personal attacks) usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to attack his claim or invalidate his argument,
cgb2 says (11:26:40):
but can also involve pointing out true character flaws or actions that are irrelevant to the opponent's argument. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and negative facts
cgb2 says (11:26:52):
about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions.
Richard McCord says to (11:27:14):
Sounds like what politicians do to each other all the time.
YHWHsoldier says to (11:27:31):
when you pray......
YHWHsoldier says to (11:27:48):
YOU MUST PRAY LIKE THIS.......
cgb2 says (11:27:53):
...and a key tactic xtians use too
Richard McCord says to (11:28:21):
There is that.
YHWHsoldier says to (11:28:23):
note the difference between Mattanyahu account and Lucas account
YHWHsoldier says to (11:28:43):
1 is a template 1 is a ritual
Richard McCord says to (11:29:19):
To which Tebow and his xtian friends will respond, "But a light set on a hill cannot be hid! We must let our lights shine before men!"
YHWHsoldier says to (11:29:20):
YHWH
YHWHsoldier says to (11:29:47):
YHWH formed and fashioned us
Richard McCord says to (11:29:49):
They don't understand anything, nothing at all.
cgb2 says (11:29:56):
Yeah there goes: National day of prayer, meet around the pole, Prayer teams, even saying grace before a emal
cgb2 says (11:30:00):
meal
Richard McCord says to (11:30:23):
Yeah, I never say grace in front of emal.
Richard McCord says to (11:30:27):
:)
Richard McCord says to (11:30:36):
Thanks, Yada!
James Bowen says to (11:30:41):
great show
tagim says to (11:30:51):
thank you, yada
cgb2 says (11:30:55):
thanks, goodf material. Glad you're back and feeling better
Richard McCord says to (11:31:05):
This just keeps getting gooder and gooder.
Yada says to (11:31:20):
That was especially fun for me today. I hope it came accross that way.
cgb2 says (11:31:49):
Yes, it really did
Yada says to (11:31:57):
I really love these choq prescriptions on how to best live our lives.
Richard McCord says to (11:32:14):
You sounded great. Let's agree to bug each other about getting up from the keyboard and stretching and working the guts to build good support for our backs.
Yada says to (11:32:51):
Especially ones from Dowd and now Dany'el on how they went about observing and considering Yah's Word and then responding.
Yada says to (11:33:18):
Yes, starting this week, I'm going to start exercising again.
Richard McCord says to (11:33:33):
I just had a "vision" of my own imagining of a nursery full of screaming babies and of the prolific dad telling his aides, "Shut that door! I can't hear myself think!"
Richard McCord says to (11:33:43):
Xtians and their praying without ceasing.
Yada says to (11:34:02):
That's funny, but also relevant.
Yada says to (11:34:40):
And Yah has closed the door on them. He does not hear them nor see them.
Richard McCord says to (11:35:02):
I read last week that some couple had paid a hundred thousand dollars to have Tebow spend the day with them. He said he felt "humbled".
Yada says to (11:35:26):
Funny way to show humility.
cgb2 says (11:35:26):
Yes a consistant theme on prayer being in private and personal...and Yahowsha even had to explain pattern since they never heard his private times
Richard McCord says to (11:35:40):
That is a profound point, like you said, that He has not asked us to pray all the time, or even at all.
Yada says to (11:36:46):
CGB you are always stressing this point, and for good reason. It's an legacy of religion.
James Bowen says to (11:37:12):
" I read last week that some couple had paid a
hundred thousand dollars to have Tebow spend the day with
them. He said he felt "humbled"." I think perhaps someone needs to give him a dictionary, he doesn't
James Bowen says to (11:37:18):
seem to understand what that word means
Yada says to (11:37:25):
We really ought to learn from Yahowsha', from Dowd, from Moseh, from Dany'el on the value of listening to Yah and then responding to Him.
Richard McCord says to (11:38:19):
I gotta go tend to a pressing personal matter. See y'all in the mornin'. Yah bless!
Yada says to (11:38:32):
Yah does not want us to thank Him for touchdowns, but instead to listen to Him and respond to His Covenant offer.
cgb2 says (11:38:40):
Yes a legacy, but also a more recent discovery...even about saying grace before dinner, praying over people...or especially praying as if Yah would manipulate free will of others
Yada says to (11:39:24):
He does not want us to thank Jesus, my lord and savior, for this opportunity, this win, this whatever.
Yada says to (11:39:57):
I agree with you CGB, it is a more recent discovery.
Yada says to (11:40:14):
It is part and parcel of our accelerated learning.
cgb2 says (11:40:32):
But as you read examples in T/P/W it's clear about prayer
cgb2 says (11:40:45):
..and Yahowsha's expale
cgb2 says (11:40:50):
example
cgb2 says (11:40:52):
too
Yada says to (11:40:54):
And it isn't a small issue, but instead as huge as knowing that towrah is teaching.
Yada says to (11:41:45):
We are growing in our understanding of what Yahowah has taught us.
cgb2 says (11:41:58):
Yes, coming out of religion it is a huge issue to understand
cgb2 says (11:42:12):
and grasp
Yada says to (11:42:25):
and it is ongoing.
Yada says to (11:43:25):
We ceased being religious a long time ago, but removing all of its corruptive influences such as religious prayer, takes time and effort.
Yada says to (11:44:03):
Distancing ourselves from religious jargon also takes time and effort.
cgb2 says (11:44:49):
Yes it does....but quicker the more one studies Yah's word with an open mind, which can be tough for religious trained folks
Yada says to (11:45:41):
As a reminder, if you don't like our current YY and ITG plans, or if you have a suggestion to make the sites more effective, write me at
email@yadayahweh.com.
Yada says to (11:46:09):
Agreed, CGB. As with everything important.
cgb2 says (11:46:47):
Even the saying of grace while at functions with my xtian parents/siblings...has me thinking, I'll try not make a scene but also not participate. Man, I hope they don;t ask to hold hands in aggrement
Yada says to (11:49:18):
I have had similar experiences. So I came up with a plan at large family events. I say it, but in a way that reveals that God hates religious prayers.
Yada says to (11:50:10):
I apologized to Yah for what we were doing. It made the point.
Yada says to (11:53:24):
If you want to have a conversation with God, read His towrah teaching and respond to His offer.
cgb2 says (11:53:50):
That's good too. Of course they'd change the menings of words and condemn me for being religious...and having a "sprit of religion" just because I want to follow Yah
cgb2 says (11:54:18):
and to do so opposes their religion
Yada says to (11:56:42):
Even my friend Ken denounces YY and the ITG, especially QP, by saying that I've made a religion out of a facination with words.
Yada says to (11:57:26):
I am focused upon observing and considering Yahowah's terminology. I rather like His words.
cgb2 says (11:58:01):
Yep, same thing here...especially if dicussing how most english translations are not "infallible" and far from it
Yada says to (11:59:05):
So while it is an obsession, a passion, it isn't a religion. The focus on Yah's words is the essense of shamar towrah, shama' towrah - of observing and listing to Yah's teaching and instruction - all of which comes by way of His words in His Word.
Yada says to (12:00:18):
If you don't make a big deal over His words in His Word, you shortchange your ability to know Him and understand what He is offering.
cgb2 says (12:00:17):
and since men (lying scribes) have so polluted it, I want to know what he really said....even though I could still get the basics from even a KJV now
Yada says to (12:01:07):
That is the other side of the problem. For people to appreciate Yah's words, especially names, we have to refute man's rubbish.
Yada says to (12:01:31):
So holy has to be condemned for set apart to be revered.
Yada says to (12:01:53):
Christ has to be condemned for Ma'aseyah - the Work of Yah to be respected.
cgb2 says (12:03:02):
Yes, and nice there was so much redundancy so even if corrupted, they still missed other areas...even when reading KJV, NASB etc, it really is still obvious
Yada says to (12:03:42):
So we will continue to focus on Yah's Word.
cgb2 says (12:04:14):
but of couse nbot obvious for ones immesrsed in pauline doctrine, and twist/ignore contradictions
Yada says to (12:05:35):
The ultimate catalyst for expunging religious terminology is to recognize that Paul was a false prophet.
Yada says to (12:06:38):
I'm off to edit V3 of YY. See Yah.
cgb2 says (12:06:48):
yep, and mohammad, joseph smith, etc too
cgb2 says (12:06:50):
See Yah
