bigritchie wrote:Here is how I look at the situation.
I think part of the problem is many people want another "Reformation". But I would point out the "Reformation" was nothing but a mistake. What the reforms should have done was "left" christianity all together.
When it boils down to, christianity is utter pagan sun god worship, virtually everything they teach is a utter lie, the only small thing they do have right is that Yahuwshua was the Messiah, and even then they LIE about his name.
So for me personally, setting foot in a christian church, would be no different then going to a temple of Zeus. Is there some parts of small amounts of truth in the church? Sure. But you know what, Buddhist teach "love thy neighbor as thyself" also, yet christians would call it a false religion because of the non truths. (You would think they would love Buddhist since Buddha was born on December 25th and they celebrate lent)
I refuse to have anything to do with the "Church".
As a side note, I think a big part of the problem of the "Messianic" movement is they are christians playing dress up Jew. They have one foot in Christianity and one foot in Judaism. It goes with the saying "The Pope can parade around in a Tallit with a Torah scroll all he wants, but he is still the Pope"!
Anyways that is my 2 cents. People need to stop trying to reform Babylonian sun god worship, and just leave it.
I'm totally with you on all this Ritchie
We tried a few messy-anic groups on our way out the religious door - we found them as problematic as christianity but with a Hebrew flair and more correct "vocabulary".
When it come to the reformation, and "new" denominations being formed, or new "movements" like home groups or organic church I think of the movie Fools Gold where the character Gemma gets mad at her very rich dad and says she doesn't want his money anymore
"Because I'm cutting myself off from you
I don't want anything from you anymore
Except for food
and clothes
and rent
and like travel
and
I'm totally serious"
They see a few "problem areas" and think if they just strain out some of the issues they've identified, everything will be better
But all they've done is gotten and new improved package but put the same formula and ingredients as the old into their prettier box
They haven't realized or accepted is that what they are trying to fix or correct is
rotten to the core There may have been some wholesome ingredients added to the recipe, but the base formula is 100% pure Babylon thru-and-thru
churchianity - in all it's different religious flavors - is still rooted in dead pagan soil - NO amount of pruning & trimming or reformation will alter that reality
NO aspect of churchianity contains Yah's Kingdom
Though there are some of Yahushua's lost sheep in religion's fields & flocks - and we are to be conduits to get them Yah's voice of Truth calling them out to Himself
Yahushua said His sheep will head His voice - they will leave babylon (this will look different from journey to journey - but which direction is movement taking place is more critical than the pace)
When it comes to interacting with churchianity in order to bring Yah's Voice of Truth, I am reminded of the water life saving training
Reach / Throw / Row / or Go
The more engaging the incursion - the greater the potential for harm to self
Another thought:
Yah didn't have people reshape the Asherah pole - He had them tear them down
You can't reform to correction something rotten to the core