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Just like KP and Yada said, there is talk about building the Third Temple without knocking down Al-Aqusa and the Dome of the Rock in today's Jpost.We are coming up on the two minute warning. |
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Interesting, I've heard about these preparations for a while now. Everything is coming on as said in Scripture. Two things things I find interesting about this article: 1) Quote:His main argument is that Jewish doctrine regarding the rebuilding of the Temple emphasizes the role of a prophet.
This prophet would have extraordinary authority, including the discretion to specify the Temple's precise location, regardless of any diverging Jewish traditions. Could this be the "false prophet" spoken of in Scripture? Or is it someone else? Who will it be? 2) Quote:Mainstream Orthodox rabbis have opposed attempts to rebuild the Temple since the Mount came under Israeli control in 1967. I guess the Orthodox Rabbis can't handle losing their power, because the Temple requires Levites, not rabbis.
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Matthew wrote: Could this be the "false prophet" spoken of in Scripture? Or is it someone else? Who will it be?
Per Scripture, I presume this prophet will be the AC. Never thought that hard about this before, but could the AC be the Mahdi as well? Will the AC be able to claim Muslim and Jewish heritage? No doubt this is a detail that I glossed over in KP's or Yada's writings. |
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What goes better with a new Temple than an old Ark? Quote:Ethiopian Review Ethiopian News & Opinion Journal Aba Diabilos to desecrate the Ark of the Covenant
June 25th, 2009 | Categories: Ethiopia | 34 Comments By Hillel Fendel | IsraelNN.com Ethiopian Orthodox Church leader says Friday, June 26, marks the right time to unveil the Biblical Ark of the Covenant, which he says has been hidden in his church for centuries. Abuna Pauolos ((aka)Aba Gebremedhin)(aka Aba Diabilos), the illegitimate Patriarch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, was in Rome this week to meet with Pope Benedict XVI. While there, he told reporters that the time had come to reveal before the world the Holy Ark. He said that the holy container has been in the custody of his church for hundreds of years. Paulous Ato (Gebremedhin) said he would make the full announcement this Friday, June 26, 2 PM local time (3 PM Israel time, 8 AM New York time) at a press conference in Rome. The Rabbis better quickly figure out a legal way to determine Levite geneology. Or do you think the RC will keep this as THEIR own? Has anyone heard anything more about this?? |
“Because he clings to Me, is joined to Me, loves and delights in Me, desires Me, therefore I will deliver him, carry him safely away, cause him to escape from harm making him inaccessible and strong, and delivering him safely to heaven, because he has known, observed, cared for, recognized, instructed and advised others to use, designated, acknowledged, discerned, answered in, My name, authority, character, report, mark, and nature." Psalm 91:14 |
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Quote:Ethiopian Orthodox Church leader says Friday, June 26, marks the right time to unveil the Biblical Ark of the Covenant, which he says has been hidden in his church for centuries.
There is a handy-dandy do-it-yourself test to see if it is The Ark: Touch it! If nothing happens, this is not The Ark. If you fall dead, this is th[THUD] |
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edStueart wrote:There is a handy-dandy do-it-yourself test to see if it is The Ark: Touch it!
If nothing happens, this is not The Ark.
If you fall dead, this is th[THUD] EXACTLY! One of the news articles said there were scholars anxious(DUH) to study the Tablets; and I'm going don't you guys read... There has to be a joke in here somewhere: How many Rabbis does it take to open the Ark... All of them, and it is still closed. |
“Because he clings to Me, is joined to Me, loves and delights in Me, desires Me, therefore I will deliver him, carry him safely away, cause him to escape from harm making him inaccessible and strong, and delivering him safely to heaven, because he has known, observed, cared for, recognized, instructed and advised others to use, designated, acknowledged, discerned, answered in, My name, authority, character, report, mark, and nature." Psalm 91:14 |
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So... it's passed time (I think). Did they unveil it? Or will we find a couple of dead orthodox priests tomorrow morning?
Wow... that was... I almost feel bad for saying that... |
As of 7-22-2009, 10:19 PM US Central Time
Earliest (possibly) Time until Friday, September 1, 2023 (Jerusalem time) 5152 days 123665 hours 7419943 minutes
Latest (possibly) Time until Saturday, October 31, 2026 (Jerusalem time) 6308 days 151410 hours 9084644 minutes |
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edStueart wrote:There is a handy-dandy do-it-yourself test to see if it is The Ark: Touch it!
If nothing happens, this is not The Ark.
If you fall dead, this is th[THUD] LOL
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Joined: 4/8/2009(UTC) Posts: 27
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I don't think I can talk much about that, because I don't have much knowledge and experience on this matter but I recommend the following videos. I cannot say I agree with everything that is said in them but I think they contain some important information. Watch them and decide for yourselves. May the Lord bless you, brothers and sisters! Here are the vids: http://www.youtube.com/w...amp;feature=channel_pagehttp://www.youtube.com/w...amp;feature=channel_pagehttp://www.youtube.com/w...amp;feature=channel_page
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The original article makes things CRYSTAL clear, in case we had any doubt....
The muslim cleric says that when the mahdi comes, if the mahdi wants the temple built, the cleric will carry the rocks himself...
Islamic end times, Jewish end times, and the Renewed Covenant run in an eerie parallel -- The AntiChrist will come. Jews will think he's the Messiah. Muslims will believe he is the Mahdi. He'll build the temple -- and you know the rest of the story.
Most likely, he's already been born... |
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I find the temple dudes cute :) their passion is inspiring - I just wish, like many others, it was directed at the right place.
Please dont bless us in the name of "the Lord" :) |
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Why not, it's in the Bible (and I'm not talking about "the LORD" translation). But ok, I love you guys, May יהוה bless you!
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ΜαvΣяiכΚ ΛΩאΓ RαηGε wrote:Why not, it's in the Bible (and I'm not talking about "the LORD" translation). But ok, I love you guys, May יהוה bless you! hehe you can say Yahweh ;) its ok lol Well the Jews think they can rebuild the temple and the Messiah will appear - but unfortunatly its not going to happen like that - according to scripture :) But I love the effort they are putting in, even if its because it REALLY annoys the muslims lol |
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Haha, I'm glad we made a consensus! Quote:But I love the effort they are putting in, even if its because it REALLY annoys the muslims lol Yeah, I agree, as long as they don't blow up stuff LOL
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Joined: 6/28/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,030 Location: Palmyra, VA
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Quote:The muslim cleric says that when the mahdi comes, if the mahdi wants the temple built, the cleric will carry the rocks himself... Yeah, I saw that news article too. Don't you just hate it when I'm right all the time? In FH, I wrote that the only way for the Antichrist to achieve his "covenant with many" would be for him to get the Muslim world to at least pretend to agree to Israel's right to exist, and the only way for that to happen would be for a hyper-prestigious imam, the Mahdi (a.k.a. Gog) to go along with the ultimate land-for-peace deal, including sweetening the poison with a spot for a rebuilt temple on the Temple Mount---a booby prize for having given away half Yahweh's covenant land to the devil---excuse me, the Muslims. I also guessed (since we aren't told the exact dates) that the Muslims will be able to maintain their facade of peaceful coexistence for no more than a year, after which they'll attack the skinny new Israel with everything they've got. Anybody willing to bet against me on that? kp
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Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 309 Location: Colorado
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Dear Friends,
I see on the "Third Temple" video they are saying that the gold crown has engraved letters on it which say: "Holy to HaShem." Doesn't it really say (or should it not say) "YHWH"?? Also, are the Cherubim on the Ark of the Covenant "on top" of the Ark, or standing "next to" the Ark with only their wings extending over the top of the Ark? It seems that there are several "Arks"; the Rabbis in Jerusalem say they have seen the "Ark" while tunneling under the Temple Mount under the Dome of the Rock; then there is the one in Ethiopia. I guess the one which will be in the Third Temple will be one of these replicas. The only true one will be untouchable.
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Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 309 Location: Colorado
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Dear Friends,
I see on the "Third Temple" video they are saying that the gold crown has engraved letters on it which say: "Holy to HaShem." Doesn't it really say (or should it not say) "YHWH"?? Also, are the Cherubim on the Ark of the Covenant "on top" of the Ark, or standing "next to" the Ark with only their wings extending over the top of the Ark? I wonder how many reproductions of the Ark exist. It seems that there are two Rabbis in Jerusalem who say they have seen the Ark while tunneling underneath the Dome of the Rock, and then there is the one in Ethiopia . . . I suppose the Third Temple will use one of these replicas since no one will be able to touch the real one.
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hehe pick an ark any ark lol |
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I also guessed (since we aren't told the exact dates) that the Muslims will be able to maintain their facade of peaceful coexistence for no more than a year, after which they'll attack the skinny new Israel with everything they've got. Anybody willing to bet against me on that?
Not betting against you, but... doesn't Daniel 9 say 3 1/2 years between establishing the covenant with many, and doing away with the sacrifice? I see that 3.5 year mark as a turning point in the relationship with Israel.
What do you see that makes you say 1 year?
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Good question, RWY, one I answer in detail in FH, of course. Basically, here's my thinking. The Trib (according to my timeline) starts with the confirmation of the covenant with many 2,520 days before the definitive Feast of Tabernacles, which makes it November 14, 2026. The Jews are prepared to begin construction of the Temple immediately thereafter, but even so, it'll take 'em months---the better part of a year---to get it built. (We know it gets finished, because the AC uses it to declare his deity (choke, cough) one month before the midpoint---i.e., 1,290 days before the end. And you're right: the sacrifices don't get cancelled until a month later, when it has become clear that Israel isn't buying into the mark of the beast.) Now, if I'm right about the third trumpet being the 99942 Apophis Asteroid, we know the date of that: April 13, 2029, which means the second (the Cumbre Vieja Volcano?) and the first (nuclear war) must precede it. The nuclear war, in turn, is an outgrowth or development of the Gog-Magog regional war, that Yahweh ends on the Mountains of Israel after what seem like months of tactical maneuvering (invading Africa, etc) described in Daniel 11.
In other words, we're running out of time for what has to happen. All of the fighting, from the initial Islamic invasion until the Asteroid strikes earth, has to happen between late 2027 (a year after the treaty is signed) and April of 2029---that's only about 14-16 months.
kp
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I hope I'm dead or raptured by then, and my kids are prepared (or raptured, too.) |
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kp wrote:In other words, we're running out of time for what has to happen. All of the fighting, from the initial Islamic invasion until the Asteroid strikes earth, has to happen between late 2027 (a year after the treaty is signed) and April of 2029---that's only about 14-16 months. That's one 14-16 months I want to miss, thankfully there is a one-way ticket out of here prior to then! Hopefully we'll get to witness the proceedings, though from a safe vantage point.
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Joined: 6/28/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,030 Location: Palmyra, VA
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I dunno, Matthew. We're going to be awfully busy, with the big awards ceremony (the bema---the "Judgment Seat of Christ"), followed by the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. But maybe King Yahshua will have a big ol' plasma screen set up somewhere so we can follow the exploits of our brother-Israelites and cheer on the neo-Laodicean believers. (Somebody might set up a betting pool on how far off my Prophetic Chronology Chart is :-) Question: Is it still considered "prayer" if we can just walk up to Yahshua and chat about what's going on down there?
kp
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Shalom,
Hate to be a wet blanket, folks, but since time is irrelevant from that vantage point, I doubt we'll be seeing anything from the time we leave till the time we return. Those who left on Trumpets will return in an instant (after the ceremonies, if any) without realising the Gap in time on earth. It'll be better this way so that we do not have to share the sorrows faced by those left behind to face the music of the beast and adversary's advocates. Remember, it'll be cataclysmic and none of us will want to see our friends and family get the short end of the straw. I doubt we will want to wait and see if anyone prays for divine intervention so that we can act... I don't think that's how it's going to work. In fact, Yahweh is going to make things even harder and I for one don't want to look at the poor souls here, repentant or otherwise. |
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