Theophilus ... exactly how is your viewpoint different from Modalism ?

The reason I continue to believe that Jesus was more than a simple manifestation of the Shekinah as the burning bush, and a distinct person, was because 1) He could be tempted to sin (temptation scene in desert, Matthew 4) and 2) His prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane when he said 'my will, not thine' be done. If he was simply a manifestation of the Father, as a TV image is a manifestation of the man being filmed, there could be no distinction between Jesus's will and the Fathers will. The fact that there is the possibility of temptation or the opposition of two wills indicates the presence of two distinct wills, and therefore two distinct persons.

Jesus could say 'I and the Father are one' because he perfectly submitted his will to the Father in all things, which is a different thing entirely from not having a will of his own to submit in the first place.

Peace Everyone,

Forgive me if I speak out of turn, but is this not where the import of YAHUshua the annointed implement of YAH coming in true flesh becomes important because it is the flesh which rails against the spirit. The Spirit is all YAH, and the flesh all YAHUshua. So, maybe it was the will of his flesh "to live" which he was praying about.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

(851) The High Priest shall burn incense on the Day of Atonement. “Then he shall take a censer full of burning coals of fire from the altar before Yahweh, with his hands full of sweet incense beaten fine, and bring it inside the veil. And he shall put the incense on the fire before Yahweh, that the cloud of incense may cover the mercy seat that is on the Testimony, lest he die.” (Leviticus 16:12-13) If you’ll recall, the altar of incense stood immediately in front of the veil separating the Holy Place from the Most Holy Place. Normally (every morning and every evening, in fact), incense would be burned upon this small altar—a picture of constant and recurring prayer and intercession. But today, on Yom Kippurim, the incense was to be brought inside the veil—into the Most Holy Place—and burned in a censer. Why? Because Yahweh’s Shekinah Glory was said to abide between the two cherubim atop the mercy seat on the ark of the Covenant. At this point, the blood of the bull (which would atone for the sins of the Priest) had not yet been sprinkled upon the mercy seat, so the process of atonement was not complete. This means that Aaron or his successor would have had to walk into the very presence of God in a sinful, unreconciled state—and that would be a fatal move. So Yahweh provided a way to insulate His glory from fallen man until the task of atonement could be performed.

In case you haven’t caught the significance of all this, the incense, this insulating intercessor between God and man, is a picture of Yahshua’s earthly life prior to Calvary: God Himself walking among us fallen mortals. How He did this without inadvertently killing us by His very glorious presence is one of the great theological conundrums of the ages. Moses reports that the cloud of incense was to “cover” the mercy seat, where the Shekinah dwelt. This is not kapar (the verb from which we get “atonement"), but kasah, which denotes “to cover, conceal, hide, or clothe.” (Strong's) In Yahshua, Yahweh’s awesome deity was concealed, hidden, and covered by being clothed in mortal flesh. And like the smoke of incense, it wasn’t made to last, but this condition persisted long enough for Him to make atonement for mankind. Hallelujah!

Seriously, Theo, was this one person (Rabbinical ex-Mesianic Jew and a Christian) or two people?

What are the 'violations' she is citing?

Writing letters to the Corinthians, the Ephesians, but not his parents?

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We know 33 CE was a Yowbel because the last historically recorded Yowbel or Jubilee in Jerusalem was 133 CE. It was a very bad year for the Jews. They were fooled by their leading Rabbi, Akiba, the fellow who is said to have founded the religious sect known as the Masoretes. Despite his massive blunder of recognizing a false messiah and of being responsible for getting his people thrown out of their land for one thousand eight hundred years, Rabbi Akiba is still considered to be one of the greatest religious scholars in Jewish history. Somebody isn't thinking.

The object of the rabbi's acclaim was Shimeon ben Kosiba, known as Bar Kochba, which means "son of a star" (guess which one). He was a charismatic man, brilliant we are told, but also a brutal warlord. That fit the rabbinical aspirations of the messiah - a warrior who would deliver Jews from oppression while at the same time being an ordinary man who would remain beholden to the rabbis who had trumpeted his arrival. One of the justifications Rabbi Akiba positioned to assert that Bar Kochba was the messiah, was that he had risen to power in a Yowbel year of redemption, as was expected of him. So following the false Messiah, the duped Jews revolted against the Romans in 133. They caught the Tenth Legion by surprise and retook Jerusalem. In response to this revolt, Emperor Hadrian, in 135, turned Israel into what Ezekiel called a "valley of dry bones." He murdered two million Jews and exiled the rest, renaming the Land Palestina. Then sowed Judea with salt to render it worthless and barren. Therefore, 133 became the last recorded Yowbel. There weren't enough Jews or Israel left to do what was required after that time.

The Holy Spirit has the Characteristics of Personality:

• The Holy Spirit has a Mind:

Romans 8:27
And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God's will. (NIV)


• The Holy Spirit has a Will:

1 Corinthians 12:11
But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills. (NASB)

Anybody who thinks having a mind and a will are more masculine traits than feminine never had a godly mother like mine.

Though, as I read it again they just redouble in their motherlyness. Oh, yeah, I conjugate like crazy. I know it's not allowed in English, but I like it.

στελλω stello {stel'-lo} probably strengthened from the base of 2476; TDNT - 7:588,1074; v AV - avoid 1, withdraw (one's) self 1; 2 1) to set, place, set in order, arrange 1a) to fit out, to prepare, equip 1b) to prepare one's self, to fit out for one's self 1c) to fit out for one's own use 1d) to prepare one's self, to fit out for one's self 1e) to fit out for one's own use 1e1) arranging, providing for this, etc. 2) to bring together, contract, shorten 2a) to diminish, check, cause to cease 2b) to cease to exist 2c) to remove one's self, withdraw one's self, to depart 2d) to abstain from familiar intercourse with one

I really just think it's all metaphorical in some cases, for instance sitting at the right hand is firstly implying that Yahshua is going to sit on the right side, and secondly that Yahshua is the authority of Yahweh and doing the work on behalf of Yahweh.